Wiring Upgrade -- Pictures Attached

Robert Linton · 12-03-2003, 11:46 PM

Thus far, albeit not in this case for a TT, my wiring upgrade has yielded a weight savings of 41.5 pounds and counting.

PorschePhD · 12-04-2003, 12:30 AM

Wow, that is amazing.....Of course very quality work as to be expected. Great stuff!!!

ColorChange · 12-04-2003, 03:07 PM

OK Robert, you have some of the most amazing stuff anyone is doing. What is your story?

cobra06 · 12-04-2003, 06:14 PM

OK, pardon my ignorance, but why are these wires amazing?.

ColorChange · 12-04-2003, 06:28 PM

I am not even positive what he is doing but it looks to me like he is rewiring his car (replacing stock harnesses with low weight versions). The fact that he pulled 40+ pounds out of the car doing this is amazing. You have to look at the other incredible things he is doing with cf to believe what he is after in terms of weight reduction.

cobra06 · 12-04-2003, 06:36 PM

I guess a better question is where does the weight reduction come about. Different connectors, reduced numbers, something inherent about the wire?.

sharkster · 12-04-2003, 06:45 PM

I'm all for weight reduction. Our cars are PIGGIES.

cobra06 · 12-04-2003, 07:04 PM

C'mon, my car's not fat, she's just big-boned

Robert Linton · 12-04-2003, 07:54 PM

Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a present day 911R -- for instance, 2200 pounds (i.e., 1000+ pounds lighter than a 996) with either 425 normally aspirated horsepower or even a turbo engine.

P.S. In the case of the lightweight harness, weight reduction comes from several sources including higher spec wire, lighter (and safer) jackets and redesign. As to the connectors, in fact, proper mil spec connectors generally weigh more than the Porsche OE pieces (although, in some instances, composite motorsport connectors can be used).

KRA993tt · 12-04-2003, 09:43 PM

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Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a present day 911R -- for instance, 2200 pounds (i.e., 1000+ pounds lighter than a 996) with either 425 normally aspirated horsepower or even a turbo engine.

And priced at ????????

rockitman · 12-04-2003, 09:44 PM

Now if that does'nt describe Porsche obsession, I don't know what does...Amazing work...Never considered electrical connections as a way to put a P-car on a diet....Wow!!!!!

sharkster · 12-04-2003, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by cobra06
C'mon, my car's not fat, she's just big-boned

ROFL. Ok well the 6speed is big boned but the tippy is a bit chubby around the ears.

Geoffrey · 12-04-2003, 10:29 PM

Looks like one used Raychem wiring and labels. Very nicely done, especially with all proper crimp connectors.

Robert Linton · 12-05-2003, 05:37 AM

KRA993tt

In my mind, this idea would have a retail of $300,000 (with no extra cost options) -- but, at this weight and with the technology in it that I would theoretically envision, would be well worth the price. And, by the way, even with a normally aspirated 425 HP engine would be among the fastest and best handling cars in the world.

Robert Linton · 12-05-2003, 05:59 AM

Geoffrey

The wire pictured is Raychem 55A and M spec with Raychem DR 25 regular and lightweight jackets (battery and emergency cutoff cables are not Reychem but are aluminum). The connectors are Deutsch aluminum and composite (milled even further when possible) and Porsche OE where required. The trick, of course, is in engineering the package and in the execution -- and, particularly with regard to the latter, there are very few people in the world I would employ.

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PorschePhD Rennlist Lifetime Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Posts: 4,518	Wow, that is amazing.....Of course very quality work as to be expected. Great stuff!!! __________________ Stephen 94 3.6Turbo AWD Rennlist Lifetime member 990415-1065 National PCA Tech Advisor 75-Present 911 Turbo, GT2, 993TT, 996TT

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sharkster Addict Rennlist Member Rennlist Site Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: san jose, california Posts: 5,808	I'm all for weight reduction. Our cars are PIGGIES. __________________ Alex "Sharky" Ross www.sharkwerks.com Porsche Performance Center for TechArt, Brembo, HRE, Champion, Tubi Phone: 510-651-0300 Email: sharky@sharkwerks.com 2011 997 GT3RS BLUFIN 2010 997GT3 09 997S ZTADPOL 07 997GT3RS SharkWerks 3.9L

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12-04-2003, 03:07 PM	#3
ColorChange User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,686	OK Robert, you have some of the most amazing stuff anyone is doing. What is your story?

12-04-2003, 06:14 PM	#4
cobra06 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange,Va Posts: 584	OK, pardon my ignorance, but why are these wires amazing?.

12-04-2003, 06:28 PM	#5
ColorChange User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,686	I am not even positive what he is doing but it looks to me like he is rewiring his car (replacing stock harnesses with low weight versions). The fact that he pulled 40+ pounds out of the car doing this is amazing. You have to look at the other incredible things he is doing with cf to believe what he is after in terms of weight reduction.

12-04-2003, 06:36 PM	#6
cobra06 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange,Va Posts: 584	I guess a better question is where does the weight reduction come about. Different connectors, reduced numbers, something inherent about the wire?.

12-04-2003, 07:04 PM	#8
cobra06 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Orange,Va Posts: 584	C'mon, my car's not fat, she's just big-boned

12-04-2003, 07:54 PM	#9
Robert Linton Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,821	Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a present day 911R -- for instance, 2200 pounds (i.e., 1000+ pounds lighter than a 996) with either 425 normally aspirated horsepower or even a turbo engine. P.S. In the case of the lightweight harness, weight reduction comes from several sources including higher spec wire, lighter (and safer) jackets and redesign. As to the connectors, in fact, proper mil spec connectors generally weigh more than the Porsche OE pieces (although, in some instances, composite motorsport connectors can be used).

12-04-2003, 09:44 PM	#11
rockitman Super User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Got Revs ??? Posts: 3,254	Now if that does'nt describe Porsche obsession, I don't know what does...Amazing work...Never considered electrical connections as a way to put a P-car on a diet....Wow!!!!!

12-05-2003, 05:37 AM	#14
Robert Linton Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,821	KRA993tt In my mind, this idea would have a retail of $300,000 (with no extra cost options) -- but, at this weight and with the technology in it that I would theoretically envision, would be well worth the price. And, by the way, even with a normally aspirated 425 HP engine would be among the fastest and best handling cars in the world.

12-05-2003, 05:59 AM	#15
Robert Linton Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,821	Geoffrey The wire pictured is Raychem 55A and M spec with Raychem DR 25 regular and lightweight jackets (battery and emergency cutoff cables are not Reychem but are aluminum). The connectors are Deutsch aluminum and composite (milled even further when possible) and Porsche OE where required. The trick, of course, is in engineering the package and in the execution -- and, particularly with regard to the latter, there are very few people in the world I would employ.