What's the verdict on Forgestar F14 wheels?
02-28-2018, 02:10 PM
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My turbo is currently on 19" wheels. I want to go back to 18". Came across the Forgestar F14 and i like the look, but i'm getting mixed signals on them. I was wondering if people with real experience with them on 996TT would share their opinion. Especially those with longer term use.
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03-08-2018, 05:51 PM
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Continuing the conversation. HRE FF15 vs. Forgestar F14. Anyone with actual use of HRE FF15 around here? Let's assume you can get both for about the same money, looks aside, would HRE be preferred?
03-09-2018, 03:33 PM
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HRE is known for their legendary build quality and have been manufacturing performance wheels since 1978.
If you look into the origins of Forgestar's materials and manufacturing then it'll leave little doubt as to which would be preferred.
If you look into the origins of Forgestar's materials and manufacturing then it'll leave little doubt as to which would be preferred.
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03-09-2018, 04:44 PM
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hre and forgestar wheels are both made in japan. forgestar wheels carry the same certs as hre. SAE JWL VIA and forgestar made the flow form wheels yrs ahead of hre . how long has hre been making flow form wheels? 5 yrs ? when i bought my forgestar wheels in 2011 hre didnt even make this style of wheel. fwiw i replaced a set of 19' hre wheels that constantly leaked. neve r a single leak on my cf-5 wheels
03-09-2018, 06:39 PM
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hre and forgestar wheels are both made in japan. forgestar wheels carry the same certs as hre. SAE JWL VIA and forgestar made the flow form wheels yrs ahead of hre . how long has hre been making flow form wheels? 5 yrs ? when i bought my forgestar wheels in 2011 hre didnt even make this style of wheel. fwiw i replaced a set of 19' hre wheels that constantly leaked. neve r a single leak on my cf-5 wheels
I have a unique background before working at HRE. Prior to working here I worked at a shop called ModBargains here in Southern California, and for the 4-5 years that I was working there, the #1 wheel brand that I sold the most of by a good amount was Forgestar. I built a unique relationship with the owner who is now working for Weld, since Forgestar got purchased by Momo (Momo/Weld Group purchased ADV.1, Weld, CCW and Forgestar). I've personally had 2 sets of Forgestars, CF10's and F14's, both of which saw one day of the track each, so I don't have much to tell from experience on track. Now I didn't spend much of any time on the track, but for the street the wheels held up just fine. I can't say the same for my friend and customer at the time Chris, who became quite internet famous for this freaky moment:
I haven't had a Forgestar fail on me as spectacularly as Chris' wheels did, but I have had multiple customers over the years while working there require replacement wheels due to bends. Now with that said, that doesn't mean that very high quality wheels are impervious to bends, but Forged wheels certainly have substantial more strength to avoid any potential cracking issues due to their better elongation and stiffness of the T6-6061 Aluminum. I haven't seen any kind of failures like this on a FlowForm wheel, though Chris makes a solid point about checking for cracks each time you go out on the track to make sure nothing like that happens to you.
Back to your comment which I'd like to address directly - Yes, our FlowForm wheels are made in Japan, and our Forged wheels are built here in San Diego, but our FlowForm wheels carry TUV certification just like our Forged wheels do, as far as I know, Forgestar wheels are not TUV certified. JWL is a self-certification process, you as a manufacturer could build your own wheel, and call it JWL certified, that means nothing unless it comes with the VIA certification too which is Japan's certification process which is governed by a secondary body. Wheels will be sent to VIA for certification similar to TUV which is a much more difficult and stringent process. Do you want your wheels to be strong enough to pass a more difficult certification test or are you ok with the lesser one? For me, I'd go for the one that tests the crap out of a wheel before I decide to buy it. Technically as well, Forgestar wheels in Germany/Austria would be illegal to drive on because they do not carry their TUV certificate, so if anyone is reading this form either of those countries, you only have one company to choose from if you want state approved wheels wheels.
Also, Forgestars are not made in Japan. The Forgings they bring in are not from Japan either (at least when I was selling them). Not sure if I'm even allowed to say where they come from so I'll play it safe and keep my mouth shut. The forgings are brought in, then when an order comes in they pull the forgings they need, they machine the backpad as they need it, and then powdercoat then they ship it.
03-09-2018, 07:47 PM
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I try not to touch on these comparison posts between wheel manufacturers simply out of respect for the forum because it's never my intent to try to bash another brand, so I'm going to try to tip toe around this as nicely as possible.
I have a unique background before working at HRE. Prior to working here I worked at a shop called ModBargains here in Southern California, and for the 4-5 years that I was working there, the #1 wheel brand that I sold the most of by a good amount was Forgestar. I built a unique relationship with the owner who is now working for Weld, since Forgestar got purchased by Momo (Momo/Weld Group purchased ADV.1, Weld, CCW and Forgestar). I've personally had 2 sets of Forgestars, CF10's and F14's, both of which saw one day of the track each, so I don't have much to tell from experience on track. Now I didn't spend much of any time on the track, but for the street the wheels held up just fine. I can't say the same for my friend and customer at the time Chris, who became quite internet famous for this freaky moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtYjujhW27Q
I haven't had a Forgestar fail on me as spectacularly as Chris' wheels did, but I have had multiple customers over the years while working there require replacement wheels due to bends. Now with that said, that doesn't mean that very high quality wheels are impervious to bends, but Forged wheels certainly have substantial more strength to avoid any potential cracking issues due to their better elongation and stiffness of the T6-6061 Aluminum. I haven't seen any kind of failures like this on a FlowForm wheel, though Chris makes a solid point about checking for cracks each time you go out on the track to make sure nothing like that happens to you.
Back to your comment which I'd like to address directly - Yes, our FlowForm wheels are made in Japan, and our Forged wheels are built here in San Diego, but our FlowForm wheels carry TUV certification just like our Forged wheels do, as far as I know, Forgestar wheels are not TUV certified. JWL is a self-certification process, you as a manufacturer could build your own wheel, and call it JWL certified, that means nothing unless it comes with the VIA certification too which is Japan's certification process which is governed by a secondary body. Wheels will be sent to VIA for certification similar to TUV which is a much more difficult and stringent process. Do you want your wheels to be strong enough to pass a more difficult certification test or are you ok with the lesser one? For me, I'd go for the one that tests the crap out of a wheel before I decide to buy it. Technically as well, Forgestar wheels in Germany/Austria would be illegal to drive on because they do not carry their TUV certificate, so if anyone is reading this form either of those countries, you only have one company to choose from if you want state approved wheels wheels.
Also, Forgestars are not made in Japan. The Forgings they bring in are not from Japan either (at least when I was selling them). Not sure if I'm even allowed to say where they come from so I'll play it safe and keep my mouth shut. The forgings are brought in, then when an order comes in they pull the forgings they need, they machine the backpad as they need it, and then powdercoat then they ship it.
I have a unique background before working at HRE. Prior to working here I worked at a shop called ModBargains here in Southern California, and for the 4-5 years that I was working there, the #1 wheel brand that I sold the most of by a good amount was Forgestar. I built a unique relationship with the owner who is now working for Weld, since Forgestar got purchased by Momo (Momo/Weld Group purchased ADV.1, Weld, CCW and Forgestar). I've personally had 2 sets of Forgestars, CF10's and F14's, both of which saw one day of the track each, so I don't have much to tell from experience on track. Now I didn't spend much of any time on the track, but for the street the wheels held up just fine. I can't say the same for my friend and customer at the time Chris, who became quite internet famous for this freaky moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtYjujhW27Q
I haven't had a Forgestar fail on me as spectacularly as Chris' wheels did, but I have had multiple customers over the years while working there require replacement wheels due to bends. Now with that said, that doesn't mean that very high quality wheels are impervious to bends, but Forged wheels certainly have substantial more strength to avoid any potential cracking issues due to their better elongation and stiffness of the T6-6061 Aluminum. I haven't seen any kind of failures like this on a FlowForm wheel, though Chris makes a solid point about checking for cracks each time you go out on the track to make sure nothing like that happens to you.
Back to your comment which I'd like to address directly - Yes, our FlowForm wheels are made in Japan, and our Forged wheels are built here in San Diego, but our FlowForm wheels carry TUV certification just like our Forged wheels do, as far as I know, Forgestar wheels are not TUV certified. JWL is a self-certification process, you as a manufacturer could build your own wheel, and call it JWL certified, that means nothing unless it comes with the VIA certification too which is Japan's certification process which is governed by a secondary body. Wheels will be sent to VIA for certification similar to TUV which is a much more difficult and stringent process. Do you want your wheels to be strong enough to pass a more difficult certification test or are you ok with the lesser one? For me, I'd go for the one that tests the crap out of a wheel before I decide to buy it. Technically as well, Forgestar wheels in Germany/Austria would be illegal to drive on because they do not carry their TUV certificate, so if anyone is reading this form either of those countries, you only have one company to choose from if you want state approved wheels wheels.
Also, Forgestars are not made in Japan. The Forgings they bring in are not from Japan either (at least when I was selling them). Not sure if I'm even allowed to say where they come from so I'll play it safe and keep my mouth shut. The forgings are brought in, then when an order comes in they pull the forgings they need, they machine the backpad as they need it, and then powdercoat then they ship it.
03-09-2018, 10:11 PM
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03-10-2018, 11:38 AM
#29
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3 years, no issues, but no track days either. Would I buy them again? Not sure given what I know now, but I don't have anything bad to say.
Based on what I've ready and what's written on the box, Forgestar F14s are made in China (PRC). I don't think anyone's thrilled about it, but that's the truth.
My next wheels will probably NOT be made in China.
Based on what I've ready and what's written on the box, Forgestar F14s are made in China (PRC). I don't think anyone's thrilled about it, but that's the truth.
My next wheels will probably NOT be made in China.