To Intercooler or Not?
08-16-2019, 11:43 AM
#46
Helping the motor in what way? Are you talking about motor component temperatures? If so, what data do you have in terms of component metallurgical life span improvements based solely on the temperature decrease that improved intercoolers have on these parts given a street driven 996 Turbo?
Cooler air is better than warm right?
08-16-2019, 12:08 PM
#48
Are you serious? Cold air is better than warm for performance. Warm air = heat soak, potential knocking, etc. What does knocking do to parts? Now, I am just using these as extreme examples based on your silly response to provide some semblance of knowledge for you. I suggest you look it up.
08-16-2019, 12:13 PM
#49
Helping the motor in what way? Are you talking about motor component temperatures? If so, what data do you have in terms of component metallurgical life span improvements based solely on the temperature decrease that improved intercoolers have on these parts given a street driven 996 Turbo?
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911mhawk (08-17-2019)
08-16-2019, 12:33 PM
#51
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But I rarely use the full performance capability I have now.
During the normal street driving I do in my Turbo, I haven't ever had a situation where I didn't have excess performance left under the accelerator given the traffic situation I faced, even in the summer here in Atlanta.
During the normal street driving I do in my Turbo, I haven't ever had a situation where I didn't have excess performance left under the accelerator given the traffic situation I faced, even in the summer here in Atlanta.
08-16-2019, 08:43 PM
#52
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Everyone has wants. If you want to upgrade your intercoolers, go for it! However for street driving, they're not needed for performance and you won't feel any performance gains other than the added lightness in your wallet.
Reliability? Nope. Spend the money on maintaining the car and don't tune it.
Reliability? Nope. Spend the money on maintaining the car and don't tune it.
08-16-2019, 08:48 PM
#53
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08-17-2019, 12:34 AM
#54
08-18-2019, 08:57 PM
#55
i ( thought i ) was arguing against the "wisdom or "neccesity" of replacing oem i/c's with upgraded i/c's for "street" use.
no one, least of all me, would argue that heat soak isn't a significant issue when tracking turbocharged porsches.
but i live in a state where the speed limit is 65mph. so heat soak is not an issue for me, or my intercoolers lol
08-18-2019, 09:31 PM
#56
there's nothing wrong with upgrading parts per se. i have done many upgrades.
i ( thought i ) was arguing against the "wisdom or "neccesity" of replacing oem i/c's with upgraded i/c's for "street" use.
no one, least of all me, would argue that heat soak isn't a significant issue when tracking turbocharged porsches.
but i live in a state where the speed limit is 65mph. so heat soak is not an issue for me, or my intercoolers lol
i ( thought i ) was arguing against the "wisdom or "neccesity" of replacing oem i/c's with upgraded i/c's for "street" use.
no one, least of all me, would argue that heat soak isn't a significant issue when tracking turbocharged porsches.
but i live in a state where the speed limit is 65mph. so heat soak is not an issue for me, or my intercoolers lol
FYI heat soak doesn't just occur when beating on your car. Stock intercoolers suck, plain and simple. Upgraded ones are better all around. There's no argument there.
08-18-2019, 09:59 PM
#57
no argument that "better" parts aren't "better", agreed. but not only is that not the POINT, but there is a cost vs benefit analysis, that i'm not sure you're capable of comprehending vis a vis oem parts and "normally" driven street cars relative to adding "more expensive parts", whose benefits might never be realized.
oem intercoolers are fine for street driven cars. this is my final effort to codify the *nuance* of my supposition ( supported by porsche ) for you.
oem intercoolers are fine for street driven cars. this is my final effort to codify the *nuance* of my supposition ( supported by porsche ) for you.
08-18-2019, 10:18 PM
#58
Drifting
Ofc bigger and more advanced intrrcoolers are, stock arent not that bad man. Imo upgraded intercoolers are for racing or hard driving. They just retain heat if there isnt any air passing through the fins.
08-18-2019, 11:11 PM
#59
Quality bar/plate cores act as heat sinks and will stay cool to the touch on the cold side. Keeping intake temps down is beneficial all around.
08-18-2019, 11:26 PM
#60
Drifting
The only intercoolers that ive ever felt cool at idle were made out of aero alu on a holden down in australia and they cost a ridiculous amount of money for street driving. As long as my temps stay below 55c at idle and close to ambient while moving i see no need to spend 1400 plus on a set of intercoolers.