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2fcknfast: that looks like a terrible install, they are supposed to go over the edge of the panels not stop short. the one on the headlight probably saved the headlight from exploding from a rock. I am undecided on the 3m, protects the paint but is costly.
That's kind of my complaint on this - they are laser cut from a CAD file are are supposed to fit the panels perfectly. So what you are looking at above is the third application of it, and each and every application has had a similar end result, so if it doesn't do a whole bunch of protecting the car, my thinking is that a ceramic will look better, be easier to clean and will not constantly challenge my OCD because I know where it's lifting off of the car...
my 3m stongard is almost 20 yrs old I installed myself with the 4mm headlight protection that looks better than the day I installed the paint protection has some slight patina but I think it's held up well over the years. worth it.
This is good stuff, but note they sell the same product marketed as s100 for motorcycles at less than half the price. I’ve found on my 10 year old film that sealant works better—less hazing. Whereas the s100 is better on paint as it fills in swirls much better. If the film has edges sealant is better as the wax will accumulate on the edges making a white line whereas sealants won’t.
my 3m stongard is almost 20 yrs old I installed myself with the 4mm headlight protection that looks better than the day I installed the paint protection has some slight patina but I think it's held up well over the years. worth it.
Surprised to see so many against PPF. I'm definitely a believer in the product, but will not try and convince anyone in this thread since I think most have made their minds up.
Regarding the original question, I would only recommend doing full panels. Full bumper, hood, fenders, mirrors, rockers and then an extended rear quarter piece in replacement of the factory piece which is too small.
May be a dumb question, but does anyone know if this helps/fixes chips after the fact? I just drove my new turbo back from Dallas yesterday and cleaned and detailed it today and noticed about 4 or 5 chips. And if theres a way to pay to make that not happen anymore and avoid resprays, I'd be happy to.
I learned a lot reading this thread and had never heard of XPEL or PPF before so it was very informative despite how divisive the feedback was. lol.
May be a dumb question, but does anyone know if this helps/fixes chips after the fact? I just drove my new turbo back from Dallas yesterday and cleaned and detailed it today and noticed about 4 or 5 chips. And if theres a way to pay to make that not happen anymore and avoid resprays, I'd be happy to.
I learned a lot reading this thread and had never heard of XPEL or PPF before so it was very informative despite how divisive the feedback was. lol.
depends on color of your car and severity of the chips
If they’re small chips, an experienced installer may be able to fill the chips prior to ppf installation and at least minimize the appearance of the chips
__________________ Specializing in Porsche/Ferrari since 1995
I really was shocked that my 996 i just bought did not have any protection like xpel so i am going to get it installed tomorrow, advice?
standard coverage - partial hood, partial fenders, mirrors and front bumper
full front- full hood, both full fenders, mirrors, nd front bumper -
edges will be wrapped where possible for maximum protection and comes with a 10yr warranty.
Just joined the List and recent puchase of a Black 2013 911 S 11,900 miles with Gtechniq ceramic plus PPF on hood 1/2, bumber, mirrors. Car looks new. Ceramic waaranty was good for 5 years which is now expired. There is a 9 year ceramic product available from Gtechnique which I will probably get but I will probably have to get the film removed to apply the ceramic.
Cost in Maryland was $2,000 for new ceramic plus interior and widow treatments. Did not get price to add the the PPF.
Assume best option is remove older PPF.
Car looks new with the older ceramic and PPF which is why I will probably redo.
Check out Gtechniq product as an option
ReelVet
Annapolis, Md
Last edited by Reel Vet; 06-28-2021 at 12:11 PM.
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Reel Vet, given the age of your car the PPF on it may not need to be replaced. It was around 8-10 years ago the quality of PPF made great strides and the thin films became available. If it were me I would apply a good ceramic over the PPF and see what it looks like, you may be surprised. Ceramic coatings don't last forever and it depends on how your car was washed etc. as to how much is left on the other surfaces. You may only need a minor correction of the paint and a new application of ceramic and you would be good to go. Much less expensive approach with not a lot of effort. Good luck in whatever you decide.
I had Xpel installed on my Cayenne Turbo for $1700 (entire front end) 4 years and 80k miles ago. I run the black truck through the car wash regularly, has held up pretty well. For my 996, I saved even more money by buying an old track rat that had scratches & rock chips already installed.
06-25-2021, 12:31 PM
And if theres a way to pay to make that not happen anymore and avoid resprays, I'd be happy to.
