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Old 04-14-2010, 07:00 PM
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I couple of days after my 30,000 mile service (at 25,000) I got in the car and the clutch seemed unusually stiff. After I started the car it was gone. "That can't be good." No problems at all while running.

Several days, and several uneventful drives later, it happens again, although this time the clutch doesn't take as much additional force to depress. After I start the car ... gone.

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Old 04-14-2010, 07:04 PM
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Most likely a pending failure of the clutch slave and or accumulator. Very common. Do a search on these two items for more information.

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Please be sure to replace both if you go in there...
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Mine went stiff (the clutch pedal guys) at around 30K also....and I just replaced the accumulator. I now have 43K on it and no further problems. I know folks recommend that "since you're in there" to do both the slave and the accumulator, but I've always maintained that if it works, don't fix it. I don't know what the stats are on having the slave go bad...by that I mean mileage wise...but the accumulators are renouwn for going TU at around 30K or sooner.
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When my accumulator failed (fixed under warranty) I was told by the dealer (non-OPC) that the official Porsche line was that the slave had to be replaced too.
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I can understand that from the perspective of Porsche...especially because it's under warranty, and there must be some info they have on failure rates for the slave....and again..."sincer they're in there" they opt to take care of both at the same time to preclude the car possibly coming back at a later date for the slave. But since there's not much info available on the failure rate of the slave itself, I'm not exactly convinced that both need to be replaced....but "since you're in there". Sort of like a leaking main seal and doing your clutch at the same time.
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From an engineering standpoint, it sounds like the accumulator (holds pressure for that first clutch use before the engine is started). I looked at OEM parts online and found the accumulator is 2/3s again as expensive as the slave. My car is under (CPO) warranty, so I'll push to have both done, and I expect my Dealership will do that. My Service Advisor says he'll have to check on coverage by "that warranty."

Now, my second question: I'm scheduled to be on the track this Saturday and I'm not sure I can get this taken care of by then. I've got no leaks under the car, and the thing is fine once the engine is running. Can I run on the track Saturday?

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As long as your car passed its required Pre Tech inspection and is not leaking any fluids, then yes.
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That's both you and my Service Advisor, Lewis. Teched and no leakin' ... off we go. Got happy feet too -- new rear shoes for the car and nomex ones for me.
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Damn, but I love that track. Miller Motorsport is composed of 2 nearly symmetric halves that can be split into separate tracks, driven (all 24 turns) as one, or driven as an outside course only. At 4.5 miles and 24 turns for the full thing, it's the longest in North America, and has a 2/3 mile front straight.

Now, here's the odd thing. After beatin' the car all day on the East course, I find that the "stiff clutch" seems to have gone away. Explain that one, anyone?
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DesignerGenes
Damn, but I love that track. Miller Motorsport is composed of 2 nearly symmetric halves that can be split into separate tracks, driven (all 24 turns) as one, or driven as an outside course only. At 4.5 miles and 24 turns for the full thing, it's the longest in North America, and has a 2/3 mile front straight.

Now, here's the odd thing. After beatin' the car all day on the East course, I find that the "stiff clutch" seems to have gone away. Explain that one, anyone?
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Thanks, Dell. I'll tell my good friend, the professional photographer, that you said that. To see more amazing photos by Dennis, go to dennismecham.com.



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