Rear tire wear pattern (photo)
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Rear tire wear pattern (photo)
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Alignment. Rear toe is wrong. The alignment probably had the tech really dial in the toe, why I have no idea. (This assumes of course the alignment was otherwise done properly, which is not (my experience) always the case.)
'course, to give the tech the benefit of the doubt, I have to wonder with the PSS10 setup that maybe the alignment can't be set optimally? In some cases aftermarket suspension components are needed to provide more range of adjustably than offered by the stock components.
Anyhow, I can get easy double 10K miles from my Turbo's rear tires and in one case got nearly 23K miles and the tires still had 3mm of tread left which meant the one with a nail in it was replaced free of charge thanks to road hazard coverage.
Correct toe should not affect the car's feel. Those times the car has had excessive rear toe as indicated by on one case rear tires that lasted barely 8K miles vs. those times the rear tires have lasted over double that number of miles I could not tell from the car's feel either before or after the alignment.
'course, to give the tech the benefit of the doubt, I have to wonder with the PSS10 setup that maybe the alignment can't be set optimally? In some cases aftermarket suspension components are needed to provide more range of adjustably than offered by the stock components.
Anyhow, I can get easy double 10K miles from my Turbo's rear tires and in one case got nearly 23K miles and the tires still had 3mm of tread left which meant the one with a nail in it was replaced free of charge thanks to road hazard coverage.
Correct toe should not affect the car's feel. Those times the car has had excessive rear toe as indicated by on one case rear tires that lasted barely 8K miles vs. those times the rear tires have lasted over double that number of miles I could not tell from the car's feel either before or after the alignment.
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This picture shows previous rear tyres with OEM euro suspension. I cannot comment the aligment since this pic was taken shortly after I got the car. I think upper picture shows more even wear pattern than this one.
I will take my car to aligment tomorrow. I should ask them to tweak in the rear toe a bit.
Tire brand may play a role. This is Pilot Sport, my previous post Kumho Ecsta.
I will take my car to aligment tomorrow. I should ask them to tweak in the rear toe a bit.
Tire brand may play a role. This is Pilot Sport, my previous post Kumho Ecsta.
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If you are wearing the inner 1" or so of the tire, than toe is your problem, not camber. I used to kill tires. One thing that I learned is that besides improved handling, my tire wear improved exponentially when I went to solid thrust arm bushings and mono ***** in the rear lower control arms. This prevented rear toe from moving around due to the compliance of the rubber bushings in the rear LCAs. The stock rubber bushing compress enough under load to allow up to 1/4" or so of fore and aft movement of the rear wheel assembly. That's a big number when translated to degrees of toe change....
Here's my tire wear in the rear. Perfectly even, no inner wear. -2.4º camber, 0º30' total toe. I think I've gotten about all I could out of 'em..
Here's my tire wear in the rear. Perfectly even, no inner wear. -2.4º camber, 0º30' total toe. I think I've gotten about all I could out of 'em..
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If you are wearing the inner 1" or so of the tire, than toe is your problem, not camber. I used to kill tires. One thing that I learned is that besides improved handling, my tire wear improved exponentially when I went to solid thrust arm bushings and mono ***** in the rear lower control arms. This prevented rear toe from moving around due to the compliance of the rubber bushings in the rear LCAs. The stock rubber bushing compress enough under load to allow up to 1/4" or so of fore and aft movement of the rear wheel assembly. That's a big number when translated to degrees of toe change....
Here's my tire wear in the rear. Perfectly even, no inner wear. -2.4º camber, 0º30' total toe. I think I've gotten about all I could out of 'em..
Here's my tire wear in the rear. Perfectly even, no inner wear. -2.4º camber, 0º30' total toe. I think I've gotten about all I could out of 'em..
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I never said I flip tires on wheels. I flip the whole wheel/tire combo from side to side on the car thus rolling the tires the other direction. The tires I run are not directional but have an inside and outside to them.
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So you does the inside edge on Left wheel become the outside edge on the right wheel?
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I just replaced my old PS2s which were directional. The brand new PS2s now are only marked with "outside" so will work on either side of the car.