THIS JUST IN! 997 3.6 engine fail, time for a 3.9 build with Steel wet sleeves
#106
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
I assume you still have to hone these cylinders to smooth out the pits and get rid of the higher chunks?
#107
no that’s just a poor photo there is no marks or anything just light crosshatching.
the cylinders are perfectly honed and clean to .003 over the piston size. Coulda went a little tighter but plan to do a lot of track days so it should be good.
#108
Burning Brakes
Great to hear things are moving along
#109
IMS installed
Ok getting some progress.
I got my crankcase carrier align honed with my ARP bolts and measured by superior automotive and now it’s dialed. They are a great shop with chassis and engine dynos super flow machines for flowing heads etc. Every tool you can imagine, if your in SoCal they can definately take care of your needs lots of older experienced guys.
Today I installed my IMS bearing I also had the IMS gears pinned so now the IMS shaft is ready to be installed in the carrier looking forward to doing that tonight.
BTW the original IMS bearing had a 135k on it and it felt completely smooth.
I got my crankcase carrier align honed with my ARP bolts and measured by superior automotive and now it’s dialed. They are a great shop with chassis and engine dynos super flow machines for flowing heads etc. Every tool you can imagine, if your in SoCal they can definately take care of your needs lots of older experienced guys.
Today I installed my IMS bearing I also had the IMS gears pinned so now the IMS shaft is ready to be installed in the carrier looking forward to doing that tonight.
BTW the original IMS bearing had a 135k on it and it felt completely smooth.
Last edited by bantamben; 09-10-2021 at 02:56 PM.
#110
Really enjoying this rebuild thread. I agree about Superior, some time ago they did a full align hone/machine work on my 454 (block/heads/intake) when I rebuilt a C3, old school talent that's sadly missing in a lot of places these days. An old school speed shop in Lawndale was how I got introduced, I think that's now gone too.
Last edited by 997.2GTS; 09-10-2021 at 03:23 PM.
#114
Three Wheelin'
Great thread, looking forward to the results. It would be really nice to have a lower cost option for those with bore scoring but can't afford or justify the Cadillac rebuild. Very interested in reliability so please keep updates on this thread once she's back on the road.
Just noticed that next to Baz Hart's posts (which are always informative) it now says "BANNED". WTF?
Just noticed that next to Baz Hart's posts (which are always informative) it now says "BANNED". WTF?
#115
Great thread, looking forward to the results. It would be really nice to have a lower cost option for those with bore scoring but can't afford or justify the Cadillac rebuild. Very interested in reliability so please keep updates on this thread once she's back on the road.
Just noticed that next to Baz Hart's posts (which are always informative) it now says "BANNED". WTF?
Just noticed that next to Baz Hart's posts (which are always informative) it now says "BANNED". WTF?
I wanted to do this build the way I felt like doing with all the info involved. I’ve built a bunch of different engines, motor cycles , chevys fords Mercedes mechanical FI, Austin mini Cooper. And I work at a power plant we’re we overhaul big 25’ long engines. So I feel comfortable building it. So far it’s not to hard with the info that’s available from Jake Raby and other videos out there, I do have the Porsche repair manual as well.
I am in the camp that there is many ways to build it, in terms of parts. I wanted to do the steel sleeves and the new Mahle pistons. But the LN parts are proven and a good way to go to. I did purchase k1 rods from LN as they seem like a good upgrade at a reasonable price.
#116
Great thread.
have you considered having the pistons and sleeves DLC? wondering if there’s durability benefit to justify the cost on the process.
have you considered having the pistons and sleeves DLC? wondering if there’s durability benefit to justify the cost on the process.
Last edited by KJR50; 09-11-2021 at 01:27 PM.
#117
#118
Ready to move to the garage
Alright I’m ready to move to the garage
this morning I attached the bank 2 rods to the crank and added the IMs hardware. Put together the bank 2 pistons and rods.
ready to move to the garage to get the carrier into the bank 1 crankcase half. Hoping to get that done and possibly install bank 1 pistons this afternoon.
The golf course is calling though to at least hit a bucket so I’ll see.
this morning I attached the bank 2 rods to the crank and added the IMs hardware. Put together the bank 2 pistons and rods.
ready to move to the garage to get the carrier into the bank 1 crankcase half. Hoping to get that done and possibly install bank 1 pistons this afternoon.
The golf course is calling though to at least hit a bucket so I’ll see.
#120
Rennlist Member
1. the flat six design has an inherent negative that on bank 2 the thrust side (the side the rod pushes against) is the top side. Bank 1 the thrust side is the bottom side. Which because of gravity should see plenty of oil.
2. As these engines get older if you lose oil pressure or overheat a little because coolant or oil is low. The bank 2 thrust side will see less heat and less oil.
2. As these engines get older if you lose oil pressure or overheat a little because coolant or oil is low. The bank 2 thrust side will see less heat and less oil.
A ton of oil gets thrown off the recip. As the engine gets older and pressure decreases, (so clearances larger) more oil would be tossed off the recip.
Gravity doesn't seem to matter on inline/vertical cylinder engines.