Opinion on over rev report
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Opinion on over rev report
997 experts,
Thoughts on the attached report? Deal breaker? It’s a 997.2 I’m looking at, but concerned about possible long term issues.
TIA.
Thoughts on the attached report? Deal breaker? It’s a 997.2 I’m looking at, but concerned about possible long term issues.
TIA.
Last edited by mbintx; 03-23-2023 at 09:30 AM.
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Hella-Buggin' (03-23-2023)
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I have looked at many DME's and that is the strangest one yet. Usually it's a build up from low to high revs...looks like this was one super "zing" past redline with a very limited duration. I would be wary as it is fairly recent.
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That being said, it's.still been almost 100 hours since that event and issues from it should have already surfaces, but I don't think it's a car I'd buy with a $35k engine build on the table if something were to show up.
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Truthfully, probably no big deal and I would think 99% of the 911s I had growing up and racing throughout the 80s and 90s had tons of over revs. 911 owners back then were a bit “different.”
The problem now is the kind of people that will never see or live on the red line are the kinds buying these now and they are scared of them because they probably don’t know any better or because Internet forums make huge deals about stuff.
if you are buying it for you to abuse and gave fun, go for it. If buying to sit in a garage, look pretty and tell others about it before you sell it, find another one because it will be discounted and not as liquid.
The problem now is the kind of people that will never see or live on the red line are the kinds buying these now and they are scared of them because they probably don’t know any better or because Internet forums make huge deals about stuff.
if you are buying it for you to abuse and gave fun, go for it. If buying to sit in a garage, look pretty and tell others about it before you sell it, find another one because it will be discounted and not as liquid.
Last edited by Doug H; 03-23-2023 at 09:27 AM.
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This topic is of current interest to me, for the wrong reasons...
I did find what looks to be a credible reference that offers an opinion that a window of 50 hours (operating) past the overrev event could be considered sufficient if other symptoms/outcomes/etc did not occur. Porsche rev range activity | engine over revs explained by 911virgin There is other useful information in this page also, FYI.
It could be worthwhile to calculate the number of engine rev's which occurred during these overrev periods, using 3 ignitions per engine rev. For your R6 case, I get 203 engine rev's. You can then calculate the actual duration of this event to put it in more recognizable terms. I get 1.3 seconds. The R6 range is over 9500 rpm, on a 7300 rpm redline engine. Your R6 event seems significant, to me anyway.
The overrev article I referenced also mentions the idea of getting a compression test and UOA (used oil analysis) for determining potential damage. I am not an engine expert and I am sure others might offer better possibilities. Regardless, if it were me, I woud have the engine checked by a very reputable Porsche mechanic.
Good luck.
I did find what looks to be a credible reference that offers an opinion that a window of 50 hours (operating) past the overrev event could be considered sufficient if other symptoms/outcomes/etc did not occur. Porsche rev range activity | engine over revs explained by 911virgin There is other useful information in this page also, FYI.
It could be worthwhile to calculate the number of engine rev's which occurred during these overrev periods, using 3 ignitions per engine rev. For your R6 case, I get 203 engine rev's. You can then calculate the actual duration of this event to put it in more recognizable terms. I get 1.3 seconds. The R6 range is over 9500 rpm, on a 7300 rpm redline engine. Your R6 event seems significant, to me anyway.
The overrev article I referenced also mentions the idea of getting a compression test and UOA (used oil analysis) for determining potential damage. I am not an engine expert and I am sure others might offer better possibilities. Regardless, if it were me, I woud have the engine checked by a very reputable Porsche mechanic.
Good luck.
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Definitely a "money shift" occurrence before someone depressed the clutch to catch it. Is this engine OK? Most likely yes. Either try to negotiate heavily on this point or walk away.
Seeing anything over (1) in 4,5,6 is generally a bad thing. (1) is considered an erroneous reporting.
Seeing anything over (1) in 4,5,6 is generally a bad thing. (1) is considered an erroneous reporting.
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I wouldn't even waste my time on that car / report .... Unless they want to reduce the price based on that **** poor report.
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This topic is of current interest to me, for the wrong reasons...
I did find what looks to be a credible reference that offers an opinion that a window of 50 hours (operating) past the overrev event could be considered sufficient if other symptoms/outcomes/etc did not occur. Porsche rev range activity | engine over revs explained by 911virgin There is other useful information in this page also, FYI.
It could be worthwhile to calculate the number of engine rev's which occurred during these overrev periods, using 3 ignitions per engine rev. For your R6 case, I get 203 engine rev's. You can then calculate the actual duration of this event to put it in more recognizable terms. I get 1.3 seconds. The R6 range is over 9500 rpm, on a 7300 rpm redline engine. Your R6 event seems significant, to me anyway.
The overrev article I referenced also mentions the idea of getting a compression test and UOA (used oil analysis) for determining potential damage. I am not an engine expert and I am sure others might offer better possibilities. Regardless, if it were me, I woud have the engine checked by a very reputable Porsche mechanic.
Good luck.
I did find what looks to be a credible reference that offers an opinion that a window of 50 hours (operating) past the overrev event could be considered sufficient if other symptoms/outcomes/etc did not occur. Porsche rev range activity | engine over revs explained by 911virgin There is other useful information in this page also, FYI.
It could be worthwhile to calculate the number of engine rev's which occurred during these overrev periods, using 3 ignitions per engine rev. For your R6 case, I get 203 engine rev's. You can then calculate the actual duration of this event to put it in more recognizable terms. I get 1.3 seconds. The R6 range is over 9500 rpm, on a 7300 rpm redline engine. Your R6 event seems significant, to me anyway.
The overrev article I referenced also mentions the idea of getting a compression test and UOA (used oil analysis) for determining potential damage. I am not an engine expert and I am sure others might offer better possibilities. Regardless, if it were me, I woud have the engine checked by a very reputable Porsche mechanic.
Good luck.
Last edited by ShaunP; 03-23-2023 at 01:20 PM.
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wow those are some harsh over rev #'s
Like some have said stay clear from that car because it's been hammered on
Like some have said stay clear from that car because it's been hammered on
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groovzilla (03-24-2023)
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Dumb question, is over rev to the redline... or beyond?
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The fact is it may or may not be fine but why pay 10's of thousands of dollars for that history when you can buy one without it. It may work out just fine for you but I would need the range 6 discount to make for the loss of resale on the back end.