rss997

.02 seconds and a whole lotta cash out ya pocket.......

OCBen

Hey Robert, how the hell are you, man? ... Haven't seen you in a while. Hope all is well and everyone is healthy and living life to the fullest.

boolala

I don't know why but the Porsche configurator lists the "3 spoke steering wheel" as being standard on the base and the "3-spoke sport steering wheel" as being standard on the S. An order guide I have for the '05 also says this. Are these the same? Also I recall when looking at the S that they all had white instrument dials at the time (early '05). Now I see that the white dials are an $860 option for both the base and S. Has this changed?

kocsis

The configurator shows both the sports wheel and the silver dials; the specs say three spoke steering wheel (not sport) and black dials. Anyone out there with a recent S who can confirm?

kocsis

By the way, the Porsche brochure lists both sports steering wheel and aluminum look dials as standard in S

boolala

Are aluminum look dials the same thing as the white dials?

OCBen

Don't think so. I believe white dials are a separate option like the red dials, yellow dials, etc.

The first pic here shows white dials, the second "aluminum look", the standard on the S.

carrera1

1. 3.8 LITRE 355 HP
2. QUAD EXAUSTTIPS/ HIGH PERFOMANCE MANIFOLD
3. P.SA.M. 10MM LOWER
4. 19'' WHEELS
5. LARGER BRAKES BASED ON CURRENT TURBO
DISC DIAMETER F/R 12.99/12.99 (12.52/11.77) NON S)
6. 56LBS HEAVIER
7.SPORT STEERING WHEEL DIAMETER 14.58 IN
8. GAUGES ALUMINIUM-COLORED AND INTERIOR PICES (AIR VENTS,DECORATIVE DASH BOARD TRIM,GEAR SHIFT FINISH)
9. XENON

TRANSMISSION RATIOS ARE THE SAME

THATS ALL OF IT

The B

LOL, OC Ben: that first pic looks like my color combo Carrera White w/Coco. I was just thinking that the color matched center consol would be easier to maintain as mine scratches so easily...anyone know if I need a new one or can I have a body shop paint the one I have?

About the difference between the 997 and 997S:

For me it's about the experience, I am much less technical. I did a 'inside/outside' test.

This is my first new 911 so driving both cars was exciting for me, I favored the 997S but could
not readily decide until the 'outside' test.

I had my salesperson put both cars side by side, start the 997, have him lightly rev it as you stand around the car, had him drive the car away from me and up to me. Did the same with the 997S.

May seem silly, but after hearing and seeing both cars from the outside I knew which car was my new experience. I had to have the S.

BiggerTwin

I think Ben is right and they are different. My Cayman S came with light grey but they look white to me. You would have to see them next to each other to tell the difference.

Alan

OCBen

That pic was taken from a dealer's ad advertising the car for sale. Maybe you ended up buying it?

So are you saying you have white dials and a center console painted exterior color, white in this case?

Deven

For about 10K you get what Carrera1 just said, and since many people will want those options anyways, the actual price difference ends up being less than 5K. The other thought is that the X-51 package is for the 'S' model, and I do not think there is an upgrade package for the base model. So in the future if you wanted another 'factory' 30Hp you could retrofit the S but not the base. 5K for a bigger displacement engine, 30Hp more and more torque is a 'bargain' as Porsche charges a premium for HP.

icon

if you look closely at the second pic it is actually white dials at dusk with the lights on, turning the numbers from black to white! (my theory anyways)
i havent seen an aluminum look dial in person!
has anyone else?????????

below is pcna shot of standard s model dials

OCBen

Ahem....that second pic is of my dash.

The B

Can someone direct me how to copy a quote on my message? The apparent skill level required exceeds my patience right now.

OC Ben: I meant that I have Carrera White w/ only Coca leather interior. My center piece (that is under the e-brake) is a matching coca brown color that picks up every little scratch.

I have thought that if mine was painted to match the outside of the car (like the pic) it would be a little more 'rugged'.

Also, I'm pretty sure I have standard dials that happen to look white like the exterior.