Speed cameras
02-19-2008, 10:21 PM
#16
Actually when you think about it between GPS and the black box, you really don't need speed cameras. Our own cars could be programed to report us when we exceed any speed limit by 10 miles per hour. Then we could reassign those thousands of police officers from traffic enforcement to real law enforcement.
02-19-2008, 11:10 PM
#17
Three Wheelin'
except that could be defeated by covering the transmitter with some tin foil.
02-19-2008, 11:12 PM
#18
Rennlist Member
If porsche pulled the the cup holders they could replace them with a credit card reader.
When you go over the magic 10 mph the on-board computer would beep, shut down the car and not restart until you swipe your card.
Am I a visionary or what?
When you go over the magic 10 mph the on-board computer would beep, shut down the car and not restart until you swipe your card.
Am I a visionary or what?
Actually when you think about it between GPS and the black box, you really don't need speed cameras. Our own cars could be programed to report us when we exceed any speed limit by 10 miles per hour. Then we could reassign those thousands of police officers from traffic enforcement to real law enforcement.
02-19-2008, 11:30 PM
#20
Rennlist Member
I forgot that there is one more insidious thing that the black can do; shut your car off!
OnStar equipped cars offer a "feature" to owners that sign up for it that allows the police to shut down your car if it is reported stolen. If memory serves, the shutdown forces the car's engine to a virtual crawl that gives the driver enough power to stop and pull over, but less getaway power than a bicycle with two flat tires.
Well, the next step is simply for the police to demand it to be shut down regardless of your signature or not. Since police already have the legal right to stop you if they want/need to, failure to comply can simply be met by turning off your car remotely. It could be the method of choice for the police to routinely stop all vehicles in the future rather than having the motorist voluntarily comply.
I am sure that the next step would be to electronically force cars to never exceed the speed limit. It would be simple to regulate a car's speed based on its GPS coordinates or some RF link to speed limit signs along the road. Once the percentage of cars with smart black boxes gets high enough I will bet that the idea will be put forward and pushed until it passes by law.
Finally, if enough people chose to own an older car without a black box how long to you think it will be before the state mandates a retrofit?
Remember, driving is a privilege, not a right.
OnStar equipped cars offer a "feature" to owners that sign up for it that allows the police to shut down your car if it is reported stolen. If memory serves, the shutdown forces the car's engine to a virtual crawl that gives the driver enough power to stop and pull over, but less getaway power than a bicycle with two flat tires.
Well, the next step is simply for the police to demand it to be shut down regardless of your signature or not. Since police already have the legal right to stop you if they want/need to, failure to comply can simply be met by turning off your car remotely. It could be the method of choice for the police to routinely stop all vehicles in the future rather than having the motorist voluntarily comply.
I am sure that the next step would be to electronically force cars to never exceed the speed limit. It would be simple to regulate a car's speed based on its GPS coordinates or some RF link to speed limit signs along the road. Once the percentage of cars with smart black boxes gets high enough I will bet that the idea will be put forward and pushed until it passes by law.
Finally, if enough people chose to own an older car without a black box how long to you think it will be before the state mandates a retrofit?
Remember, driving is a privilege, not a right.
02-19-2008, 11:32 PM
#21
Porsche couldn't even get our stereo right, I doubt they can do this
02-19-2008, 11:51 PM
#22
Big can of worms Marv. Just imagine if the stop command was issued in such a way that the car stopped in the middle of a train track with a train coming up. Obscure example yes, but not impossible. Just sayin...
02-20-2008, 12:04 AM
#23
Three Wheelin'
I forgot that there is one more insidious thing that the black can do; shut your car off!
OnStar equipped cars offer a "feature" to owners that sign up for it that allows the police to shut down your car if it is reported stolen. If memory serves, the shutdown forces the car's engine to a virtual crawl that gives the driver enough power to stop and pull over, but less getaway power than a bicycle with two flat tires.
Well, the next step is simply for the police to demand it to be shut down regardless of your signature or not. Since police already have the legal right to stop you if they want/need to, failure to comply can simply be met by turning off your car remotely. It could be the method of choice for the police to routinely stop all vehicles in the future rather than having the motorist voluntarily comply.
I am sure that the next step would be to electronically force cars to never exceed the speed limit. It would be simple to regulate a car's speed based on its GPS coordinates or some RF link to speed limit signs along the road. Once the percentage of cars with smart black boxes gets high enough I will bet that the idea will be put forward and pushed until it passes by law.
Finally, if enough people chose to own an older car without a black box how long to you think it will be before the state mandates a retrofit?
Remember, driving is a privilege, not a right.
OnStar equipped cars offer a "feature" to owners that sign up for it that allows the police to shut down your car if it is reported stolen. If memory serves, the shutdown forces the car's engine to a virtual crawl that gives the driver enough power to stop and pull over, but less getaway power than a bicycle with two flat tires.
Well, the next step is simply for the police to demand it to be shut down regardless of your signature or not. Since police already have the legal right to stop you if they want/need to, failure to comply can simply be met by turning off your car remotely. It could be the method of choice for the police to routinely stop all vehicles in the future rather than having the motorist voluntarily comply.
I am sure that the next step would be to electronically force cars to never exceed the speed limit. It would be simple to regulate a car's speed based on its GPS coordinates or some RF link to speed limit signs along the road. Once the percentage of cars with smart black boxes gets high enough I will bet that the idea will be put forward and pushed until it passes by law.
Finally, if enough people chose to own an older car without a black box how long to you think it will be before the state mandates a retrofit?
Remember, driving is a privilege, not a right.
all I can say Marv is that we live in a democracy - the people get the government they deserve. If they permit such excesses, we deserve what we get.
02-20-2008, 12:08 AM
#24
Drifting
I forgot that there is one more insidious thing that the black can do; shut your car off!
OnStar equipped cars offer a "feature" to owners that sign up for it that allows the police to shut down your car if it is reported stolen. If memory serves, the shutdown forces the car's engine to a virtual crawl that gives the driver enough power to stop and pull over, but less getaway power than a bicycle with two flat tires.
Well, the next step is simply for the police to demand it to be shut down regardless of your signature or not. Since police already have the legal right to stop you if they want/need to, failure to comply can simply be met by turning off your car remotely. It could be the method of choice for the police to routinely stop all vehicles in the future rather than having the motorist voluntarily comply.
I am sure that the next step would be to electronically force cars to never exceed the speed limit. It would be simple to regulate a car's speed based on its GPS coordinates or some RF link to speed limit signs along the road. Once the percentage of cars with smart black boxes gets high enough I will bet that the idea will be put forward and pushed until it passes by law.
Finally, if enough people chose to own an older car without a black box how long to you think it will be before the state mandates a retrofit?
Remember, driving is a privilege, not a right.
OnStar equipped cars offer a "feature" to owners that sign up for it that allows the police to shut down your car if it is reported stolen. If memory serves, the shutdown forces the car's engine to a virtual crawl that gives the driver enough power to stop and pull over, but less getaway power than a bicycle with two flat tires.
Well, the next step is simply for the police to demand it to be shut down regardless of your signature or not. Since police already have the legal right to stop you if they want/need to, failure to comply can simply be met by turning off your car remotely. It could be the method of choice for the police to routinely stop all vehicles in the future rather than having the motorist voluntarily comply.
I am sure that the next step would be to electronically force cars to never exceed the speed limit. It would be simple to regulate a car's speed based on its GPS coordinates or some RF link to speed limit signs along the road. Once the percentage of cars with smart black boxes gets high enough I will bet that the idea will be put forward and pushed until it passes by law.
Finally, if enough people chose to own an older car without a black box how long to you think it will be before the state mandates a retrofit?
Remember, driving is a privilege, not a right.
02-20-2008, 06:54 AM
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02-20-2008, 07:10 AM
#26
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The procedure here is: drive fast - approach camera - slam on brakes - leave camera zone - speed up again.
They are revenue earning machines that's all!
One good thing though, the police and mobile radars rarely show up near the static spots. Welcome to my world!!
02-20-2008, 07:44 AM
#27
Imagine the number of police who are dedicated to traffic law enforcement. With the proposed technology, at least 90% of these officers could be reassigned to real law enforcement.
02-20-2008, 07:49 AM
#28
I am sure that the next step would be to electronically force cars to never exceed the speed limit. It would be simple to regulate a car's speed based on its GPS coordinates or some RF link to speed limit signs along the road. Once the percentage of cars with smart black boxes gets high enough I will bet that the idea will be put forward and pushed until it passes by law.
Finally, if enough people chose to own an older car without a black box how long to you think it will be before the state mandates a retrofit?
You could sell this idea in a number of ways. There's the safety argument, and then there's the improved gas mileage argument, and finally less CO2 emissions. I think this will eventually be implemented, but it will take a long time, hopefully.
Finally, if enough people chose to own an older car without a black box how long to you think it will be before the state mandates a retrofit?
You could sell this idea in a number of ways. There's the safety argument, and then there's the improved gas mileage argument, and finally less CO2 emissions. I think this will eventually be implemented, but it will take a long time, hopefully.
02-20-2008, 08:05 AM
#29
There are a number of scenarios where shutting off the engine would be catastrophic. Simply recording the speeding event is all that's required.