Current Market - How Much?
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Here's one you should be able to pick up for 52.5 K no problem . ONLY 22K miles !
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/772842098.html
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/772842098.html
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At least over on the 996 board you would get actual help. He's asking for market values, prices, numbers.
So here they are:
2005 997s are worth between 39K-62K max. If you look at completed Ebay auctions, virtually none of those over priced cars sell. Only 3 997s sold over the most recent 134 auctions. The other's didn't sell becuase they were asking way too much.
Get a nice 997 for about 55K or get a REAL bargin and go for the 996 for thousands and thousands less. You will enjoy it just the same. Or get a TT 996
So here they are:
2005 997s are worth between 39K-62K max. If you look at completed Ebay auctions, virtually none of those over priced cars sell. Only 3 997s sold over the most recent 134 auctions. The other's didn't sell becuase they were asking way too much.
Get a nice 997 for about 55K or get a REAL bargin and go for the 996 for thousands and thousands less. You will enjoy it just the same. Or get a TT 996
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At least over on the 996 board you would get actual help. He's asking for market values, prices, numbers.
So here they are:
2005 997s are worth between 39K-62K max. If you look at completed Ebay auctions, virtually none of those over priced cars sell. Only 3 997s sold over the most recent 134 auctions. The other's didn't sell becuase they were asking way too much.
Get a nice 997 for about 55K or get a REAL bargin and go for the 996 for thousands and thousands less. You will enjoy it just the same. Or get a TT 996
So here they are:
2005 997s are worth between 39K-62K max. If you look at completed Ebay auctions, virtually none of those over priced cars sell. Only 3 997s sold over the most recent 134 auctions. The other's didn't sell becuase they were asking way too much.
Get a nice 997 for about 55K or get a REAL bargin and go for the 996 for thousands and thousands less. You will enjoy it just the same. Or get a TT 996
Maybe consider asking those who have moved up from a 996 to 997 what the differences are.
Personally I'd get a 993 long before considering a 996.
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Here's one you should be able to pick up for 52.5 K no problem . ONLY 22K miles !
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/772842098.html
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/car/772842098.html
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Ryangambrill,
There are a couple of ways to establish your baseline for the price, and they all take a little time and research. All the tools are available on the net. Check out autotrader.com, ebay auctions, edmunds.com and kbb.com. You'll find that in some parts of the country, the cars are selling for higher than in other - probably based upon demand. Dealers charge more than private parties (no kidding, right?), but through a Porsche dealer you have the advantage of CPO. Non-Porsche dealers typically get the car at auction, detail it and throw it on the net. Be careful when buying used from a non-Porsche dealer as you may not get all keys, books, records, etc. Some may require a non-refundable deposit (which you'll not give and look elsewhere).
Take some time and look at what's out there, and what you can afford. Personally, I was looking at a used 996. But, after driving a friends C4S one weekend, I bailed on the 996 due to the uncomfortable suspension on city streets, and ended up with a new 997 C2S cab.
Best of luck.
There are a couple of ways to establish your baseline for the price, and they all take a little time and research. All the tools are available on the net. Check out autotrader.com, ebay auctions, edmunds.com and kbb.com. You'll find that in some parts of the country, the cars are selling for higher than in other - probably based upon demand. Dealers charge more than private parties (no kidding, right?), but through a Porsche dealer you have the advantage of CPO. Non-Porsche dealers typically get the car at auction, detail it and throw it on the net. Be careful when buying used from a non-Porsche dealer as you may not get all keys, books, records, etc. Some may require a non-refundable deposit (which you'll not give and look elsewhere).
Take some time and look at what's out there, and what you can afford. Personally, I was looking at a used 996. But, after driving a friends C4S one weekend, I bailed on the 996 due to the uncomfortable suspension on city streets, and ended up with a new 997 C2S cab.
Best of luck.
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As one in the market for "the perfect 997" I can tell you it is really soft. I've seen some good, clean cars dropping $1K in advertised price per week. If you want the car make them an offer.
For the one you are looking at, does it have any warranty left? The first 2005's were being delivered in September 2004 (I think), so you should have at least a month of factory warranty left. I'd take it quickly and directly to your nearest dealer for a through going over.
good luck.
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For the one you are looking at, does it have any warranty left? The first 2005's were being delivered in September 2004 (I think), so you should have at least a month of factory warranty left. I'd take it quickly and directly to your nearest dealer for a through going over.
good luck.
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As one in the market for "the perfect 997" I can tell you it is really soft. I've seen some good, clean cars dropping $1K in advertised price per week. If you want the car make them an offer.
For the one you are looking at, does it have any warranty left? The first 2005's were being delivered in September 2004 (I think), so you should have at least a month of factory warranty left. I'd take it quickly and directly to your nearest dealer for a through going over.
good luck.
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For the one you are looking at, does it have any warranty left? The first 2005's were being delivered in September 2004 (I think), so you should have at least a month of factory warranty left. I'd take it quickly and directly to your nearest dealer for a through going over.
good luck.
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Now, only two + years later I am thinking that I can get a nice 2005 C2 for in the $50's.
I know that this is a hard question. But is does anyone have any idea how much depreciation to expect per year. Do these car eventually just level off?
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Figure 10% per year
until you get to 0 (think about that for a while...).
Some folks make the mistaken assumption that buying a Porsche is an investment. I agree, just not a financial investment.
After you've put 200,000 miles on it, go back and figure your price per mile and then price per smile!
My wife's Nissan Versa will always be cheaper than my Porsche (currently 964) but I only smile in it when I hear a good joke. Just starting the C4 makes me smile, heck I even smile when I'm cleaning the bug guts off the windshield.
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Some folks make the mistaken assumption that buying a Porsche is an investment. I agree, just not a financial investment.
After you've put 200,000 miles on it, go back and figure your price per mile and then price per smile!
My wife's Nissan Versa will always be cheaper than my Porsche (currently 964) but I only smile in it when I hear a good joke. Just starting the C4 makes me smile, heck I even smile when I'm cleaning the bug guts off the windshield.
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until you get to 0 (think about that for a while...).
Some folks make the mistaken assumption that buying a Porsche is an investment. I agree, just not a financial investment.
After you've put 200,000 miles on it, go back and figure your price per mile and then price per smile!
My wife's Nissan Versa will always be cheaper than my Porsche (currently 964) but I only smile in it when I hear a good joke. Just starting the C4 makes me smile, heck I even smile when I'm cleaning the bug guts off the windshield.
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Some folks make the mistaken assumption that buying a Porsche is an investment. I agree, just not a financial investment.
After you've put 200,000 miles on it, go back and figure your price per mile and then price per smile!
My wife's Nissan Versa will always be cheaper than my Porsche (currently 964) but I only smile in it when I hear a good joke. Just starting the C4 makes me smile, heck I even smile when I'm cleaning the bug guts off the windshield.
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My initial thought is to go with a nice 3-4 year old 911. The major hit of depreciation has been taken. At this stage I do not see the extra value for me for buying brand new.
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I'm in the same boat
I'm looking at nice 2006 and 2007 S's with less that 10K on the clock, some with less than 5K! I appreciate the folks that bought new and then put it in the garage so I can get it for 60 or 70% of new.
Though I am tempted to have a Porsche where all the miles are mine! And it's Irish Green, with natural brown leather interior with tartan inserts in the seats, and PCCB, and carrera sport wheels, and sport shifter, and ....
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Though I am tempted to have a Porsche where all the miles are mine! And it's Irish Green, with natural brown leather interior with tartan inserts in the seats, and PCCB, and carrera sport wheels, and sport shifter, and ....
c.
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I agree with you. This is an investment, losing that is. I know that the car is going to cost me money. I work hard for my money and I just want to maximize my value.
My initial thought is to go with a nice 3-4 year old 911. The major hit of depreciation has been taken. At this stage I do not see the extra value for me for buying brand new.
My initial thought is to go with a nice 3-4 year old 911. The major hit of depreciation has been taken. At this stage I do not see the extra value for me for buying brand new.
May advice when buying a toy car like this is you should maximize fun-not value. The nice thing about money is that you can always make more when needed!