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09-21-2008, 08:05 PM
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Because that's the proper comparo. You compare level of car to level of car.
MB's entry is the C300 V6; the Audi the 2.0t. Audi's biggest (non S line) engine is the 3.2; MB's (non AMG) it's the 3.5L.
Now if you wanna compare the RS4 vs the C63, we can do that too. LOL
MB's entry is the C300 V6; the Audi the 2.0t. Audi's biggest (non S line) engine is the 3.2; MB's (non AMG) it's the 3.5L.
Now if you wanna compare the RS4 vs the C63, we can do that too. LOL
09-21-2008, 08:23 PM
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09-21-2008, 08:44 PM
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I've owned several recent Audis (2005.5 S4, 2007 A3, 2007 RS4) and they've been great cars. My RS4 is a monster - I'm only moving on because Mr. Sanner is making me a great deal on a 997 Turbo (and I like his stoppie). The A3 is now my wife's car, but it is phenomenal - quick, easy to drive, lots of fun. It's a 2.0T w/DSG - a perfect drivetrain combo that renders the V6 obsolete IMO. The S4 was really good, but the RS4 is a different planet when it comes to performance.
Also, my wife and I rented a 2008 A6 S-line for almost a month in CA and loved it. It rode great, got incredible gas mileage (30mpg???), and was fun to drive. I've heard the S6 is a little boring, but I bet it's VERY polished. If I were looking for a nice, comfy, fast cruiser the S6 would be up for consideration.
Also, my wife and I rented a 2008 A6 S-line for almost a month in CA and loved it. It rode great, got incredible gas mileage (30mpg???), and was fun to drive. I've heard the S6 is a little boring, but I bet it's VERY polished. If I were looking for a nice, comfy, fast cruiser the S6 would be up for consideration.
09-21-2008, 08:45 PM
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Did I REALLY have to type it all out for you??
Okay, fine.
MERCEDES BENZ C300 4MATIC (AWD) Vs. AUDI A4 2.0t Quattro. How's that?
Seriously.....
Hmm, it would appear SOMEONE got what i was say'n. Jayzus!!
Thank you Tooloud!!!
- i see we're seeing eye to eye
09-21-2008, 08:46 PM
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I've owned several recent Audis (2005.5 S4, 2007 A3, 2007 RS4) and they've been great cars. My RS4 is a monster - I'm only moving on because Mr. Sanner is making me a great deal on a 997 Turbo (and I like his stoppie). The A3 is now my wife's car, but it is phenomenal - quick, easy to drive, lots of fun. It's a 2.0T w/DSG - a perfect drivetrain combo that renders the V6 obsolete IMO. The S4 was really good, but the RS4 is a different planet when it comes to performance.
Also, my wife and I rented a 2008 A6 S-line for almost a month in CA and loved it. It rode great, got incredible gas mileage (30mpg???), and was fun to drive. I've heard the S6 is a little boring, but I bet it's VERY polished. If I were looking for a nice, comfy, fast cruiser the S6 would be up for consideration.
Also, my wife and I rented a 2008 A6 S-line for almost a month in CA and loved it. It rode great, got incredible gas mileage (30mpg???), and was fun to drive. I've heard the S6 is a little boring, but I bet it's VERY polished. If I were looking for a nice, comfy, fast cruiser the S6 would be up for consideration.
Word up!
09-23-2008, 02:57 PM
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My Audi experience is limited to the TT Roadster my wife drives. By far the most expensive car to maintain I've ever owned. The 4 yr/40K mile maintenance was right around $800 due to having to change the Haldex fluid. It's far more costly than Porsche maintenance which I find to be very fair.
Never again.
Never again.
09-23-2008, 03:12 PM
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Do you have to put out the same coin for these cars? If yes, then comparo is fair, if one requires more dinero then comparo is not fair...
09-23-2008, 03:34 PM
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Audi A6 2.7 Bi-Turbo Line-S 2003-2007
Audi S4 2006-2008
Audi A4 Line-S with 3.2 2006 - Present
Loved them ALL - West Coast moves had me sell off a few cars (too many on too many coasts)...
I am a MAJOR fan of Audi - not a single problem with any of the cars the time we owned all of them - the S4 was Super - only got rid of it because I have the 911 in California and needed a "4x4 SUV" with more room than the S4...
Audi S4 2006-2008
Audi A4 Line-S with 3.2 2006 - Present
Loved them ALL - West Coast moves had me sell off a few cars (too many on too many coasts)...
I am a MAJOR fan of Audi - not a single problem with any of the cars the time we owned all of them - the S4 was Super - only got rid of it because I have the 911 in California and needed a "4x4 SUV" with more room than the S4...
09-23-2008, 05:28 PM
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So if that's your arguement; a Z06 Corvette should be compared to a C2S 911 Coupe? (when ALL the mag's are comparing it to the Turbo? So they're wrong?)
See what I'm say'n?
09-23-2008, 05:43 PM
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I have a 2008 A4 as a 4rd car. It is an very unoptioned, front drive 2.0 It is no frills, but is fine for its inteded purpose for my use. I haven't had it long so no issues for me. It is quiet, gets good mileage, looks nice, and was relatively cheap considering the 2009 was a new model so they were giving away the 2008's.
09-23-2008, 06:03 PM
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Hope your no frills car has a stick and not a multitronic/CVT. Although the CVT has improved, apparently, it still has reliability problems and owning one out of warranty can be a gamble. I think I would have a very different opinion of Audi if I had not gotten the multitronic. Has made me suspicious of all fancy auto transmissions ... PM me if you want details. Good luck!
I have a 2008 A4 as a 4rd car. It is an very unoptioned, front drive 2.0 It is no frills, but is fine for its inteded purpose for my use. I haven't had it long so no issues for me. It is quiet, gets good mileage, looks nice, and was relatively cheap considering the 2009 was a new model so they were giving away the 2008's.
09-23-2008, 07:01 PM
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This post started with "For more than a decade, i've been with MB, BMW, and Porsche". And then went on to the Audi commercial and it's impact etc. That starting sentence describes me/my wife to a T - with the exception of a couple of Saab's and one VW Passat thrown in (which was essentially an Audi, anyways, back in the day).
My wife saw the commercial (and she's been a BMW person who just got an MB S550) and she LOVED it - all until she saw the ending!!! She asked me, "did we buy the wrong car"? The ad ABSOLUTELY hit home with her and I'll say this - having just plunked down the coin for the MB - made me think too. At a minimum, it will have me/us look at the Audi next time we're looking. An outstanding ad - and the music with it was perfect. Whichever agency they are using sure did a bang-up job!
My wife saw the commercial (and she's been a BMW person who just got an MB S550) and she LOVED it - all until she saw the ending!!! She asked me, "did we buy the wrong car"? The ad ABSOLUTELY hit home with her and I'll say this - having just plunked down the coin for the MB - made me think too. At a minimum, it will have me/us look at the Audi next time we're looking. An outstanding ad - and the music with it was perfect. Whichever agency they are using sure did a bang-up job!
Unless Audi shapes up with the dependability issue, I will stay with the "old luxury." I don't have time for frequent dealer trips. The Mercedes in the ad, I think was S550, looked lame due to the color being beige. Picture it with a black S55 AMG or a BMW M3 or M6, it would have been different. Now picture it with a 997 GT2, GT3 or Turbo. P car an "old luxury"? It's more of a legend that offers best of both worlds - design and quality.
Cheers
09-23-2008, 08:59 PM
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Are you speaking from personal experience with regard to Audi?
Personally - after having one M-B (2003 E class - brand new) I will never buy one again. Complete and total POS. SBS brakes - joke. Fiber optic cabling - great idea - horrible execution. Squeaks and rattles very unseemly for a $50K+ car.
My Audi on the other hand has been outstanding even though I was expecting it to be pretty so-so in terms of reliability.
09-23-2008, 10:24 PM
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Are you speaking from personal experience with regard to Audi?
Personally - after having one M-B (2003 E class - brand new) I will never buy one again. Complete and total POS. SBS brakes - joke. Fiber optic cabling - great idea - horrible execution. Squeaks and rattles very unseemly for a $50K+ car.
My Audi on the other hand has been outstanding even though I was expecting it to be pretty so-so in terms of reliability.
Personally - after having one M-B (2003 E class - brand new) I will never buy one again. Complete and total POS. SBS brakes - joke. Fiber optic cabling - great idea - horrible execution. Squeaks and rattles very unseemly for a $50K+ car.
My Audi on the other hand has been outstanding even though I was expecting it to be pretty so-so in terms of reliability.
I'm not really surprised about your disappointment with the current E-class. My 300E is from 91 and still runs great at 199K miles. I think the MB status & quality was the best in the 80's and 90's. My family had the BMW 528, 740iL and now 745i Sport & 750i Sport. We never had any problems, although I hear many complaints from BMW owners.
09-24-2008, 12:32 AM
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Are you speaking from personal experience with regard to Audi?
Personally - after having one M-B (2003 E class - brand new) I will never buy one again. Complete and total POS. SBS brakes - joke. Fiber optic cabling - great idea - horrible execution. Squeaks and rattles very unseemly for a $50K+ car.
My Audi on the other hand has been outstanding even though I was expecting it to be pretty so-so in terms of reliability.
Personally - after having one M-B (2003 E class - brand new) I will never buy one again. Complete and total POS. SBS brakes - joke. Fiber optic cabling - great idea - horrible execution. Squeaks and rattles very unseemly for a $50K+ car.
My Audi on the other hand has been outstanding even though I was expecting it to be pretty so-so in terms of reliability.
Nope, I never had an Audi, but that was the conclusion based on the info from the guys in here. And Audi not being in the top 10 list of JD Power reliability test kinda confirms it.
I'm not really surprised about your disappointment with the current E-class. My 300E is from 91 and still runs great at 199K miles. I think the MB status & quality was the best in the 80's and 90's. My family had the BMW 528, 740iL and now 745i Sport & 750i Sport. We never had any problems, although I hear many complaints from BMW owners.
I'm not really surprised about your disappointment with the current E-class. My 300E is from 91 and still runs great at 199K miles. I think the MB status & quality was the best in the 80's and 90's. My family had the BMW 528, 740iL and now 745i Sport & 750i Sport. We never had any problems, although I hear many complaints from BMW owners.
The 2007-09 cars are ROCK solid. Gone are the Bosch electronics ; in came in the Harmon International after MY2005.
Drive the new E and you'll see. Drive the one that's completey redesigned and you'll be blown away.
*I have a 2007 MB E350 Sport RWD- Not a single issue. Tires look as good as new. Average 24mpg (98% is city) I'd say the car rocks.