Need a car that can replace a 997
#16
I do believe character can tell by the car you drive or the way you dress. Scion is for student and Subaru is for young street racer. Porsche is the best sports and Merc is the best luxury car. Driving a cheap car to a business meeting will also give you a negative. We get to dress casual on Friday so I drive Merc on Mon to Thur and Pors on Fr to Sun. That is my character and don’t want to cover it up.
Just buy a used 4 doors Merc for business and keep the 997 for the weekend.
Just buy a used 4 doors Merc for business and keep the 997 for the weekend.
Maybe in second place in both categories, I guess?
I'd put Merc and Lexus as a tie though in luxury car category...
#17
Drifting
Sounds like the business associate judging you by your car is a class act!
I personally went through something similar over the past few years.... I was part of a team that sold a tech company to a midwestern Fortune 100. I tend to dress flashy for work (high-end designers) and heard numerous comments (over alcohol) from higher-ups that I was "dressing past my rank"...
Another story involves my dad. He was a sales guy in the defense industry before retiring in the mid-90s, and was making money hand over fist during the Reagan years. He drove a Dodge Caravan on his sales calls, and wore "Sears Best" suits. His mindset was that his customers, who made billion dollar decisions using pentagon funding, made little money personally - and that he needed to tone it down to establish a trusting relationship.
You just have to read your industry, and figure out the right way to maximize your position.... In your situation, I'd recommend buying a four door car that you customers would drive - and keep the 911 at home for personal use...
My $0.02,
-B
I personally went through something similar over the past few years.... I was part of a team that sold a tech company to a midwestern Fortune 100. I tend to dress flashy for work (high-end designers) and heard numerous comments (over alcohol) from higher-ups that I was "dressing past my rank"...
Another story involves my dad. He was a sales guy in the defense industry before retiring in the mid-90s, and was making money hand over fist during the Reagan years. He drove a Dodge Caravan on his sales calls, and wore "Sears Best" suits. His mindset was that his customers, who made billion dollar decisions using pentagon funding, made little money personally - and that he needed to tone it down to establish a trusting relationship.
You just have to read your industry, and figure out the right way to maximize your position.... In your situation, I'd recommend buying a four door car that you customers would drive - and keep the 911 at home for personal use...
My $0.02,
-B
#18
I would not say Audi is a downgrade at all. I'm not sure what biz you're in but in Los Angeles, these cars are a dime a dozen, not sure why you're getting negative comments. That said, if you have to take clients out, the 997 isn't the best choice for some due to the poor ride quality in comparison to a luxury sedan.
Check out the new Audi A7 and A6... they are really nice.
Check out the new Audi A7 and A6... they are really nice.
#19
You completely lost me with the last sentence. A 997 is too flashy so you're wondering about a Maserati or Bentley?
I think your judemental acquitances need to go pound sand.
I think your judemental acquitances need to go pound sand.
#20
Nordschleife Master
It's unfortunate, but reality, that some people (business people at that) judge others by the cars they drive. If you are concerned about 'business image' get a standard business sedan Audi/MB/BMW/Lexus (and not the sporty versions either, liker Audi S-series, AMG, M-series) in silver/gray/black and you are set.
And...make sure that's what your partners drive or expect you to drive. If not, get a Ford or a Buick.
And... keep your 911 for your private life.
And...make sure that's what your partners drive or expect you to drive. If not, get a Ford or a Buick.
And... keep your 911 for your private life.
#22
Rennlist Member
Merc C63 sedan or the new C63 coupe.
#24
Sounds like the business associate judging you by your car is a class act!
I personally went through something similar over the past few years.... I was part of a team that sold a tech company to a midwestern Fortune 100. I tend to dress flashy for work (high-end designers) and heard numerous comments (over alcohol) from higher-ups that I was "dressing past my rank"...
Another story involves my dad. He was a sales guy in the defense industry before retiring in the mid-90s, and was making money hand over fist during the Reagan years. He drove a Dodge Caravan on his sales calls, and wore "Sears Best" suits. His mindset was that his customers, who made billion dollar decisions using pentagon funding, made little money personally - and that he needed to tone it down to establish a trusting relationship.
You just have to read your industry, and figure out the right way to maximize your position.... In your situation, I'd recommend buying a four door car that you customers would drive - and keep the 911 at home for personal use...
My $0.02,
-B
I personally went through something similar over the past few years.... I was part of a team that sold a tech company to a midwestern Fortune 100. I tend to dress flashy for work (high-end designers) and heard numerous comments (over alcohol) from higher-ups that I was "dressing past my rank"...
Another story involves my dad. He was a sales guy in the defense industry before retiring in the mid-90s, and was making money hand over fist during the Reagan years. He drove a Dodge Caravan on his sales calls, and wore "Sears Best" suits. His mindset was that his customers, who made billion dollar decisions using pentagon funding, made little money personally - and that he needed to tone it down to establish a trusting relationship.
You just have to read your industry, and figure out the right way to maximize your position.... In your situation, I'd recommend buying a four door car that you customers would drive - and keep the 911 at home for personal use...
My $0.02,
-B
I subscribe to this line of thinking as well. I have various levels of dress attire for business and will dress up or down depending on whom I'm meeting with. Same for my cars. I have the 997, but have other cars in the family line up that I will use depending on the business need.
#25
Life is not that simple. You don’t have to care what your coworkers say but going out with a client is a different story. The first impression is very important because sometime there is no 2nd chance. Some of us have to separate business and pleasure.
#26
Drifting
keep the 997 and get a used 08/09 M3 Sedan... sporty but still looks like a nice sedan especially for those who are not in the know. Going badgeless would also help with perception while still providing for a performant ride.
#27
That's a tough set of requirements. A four/five seat sporty car that's more prestigious than an Audi, more unique than a BMW and not a Jag? Seems like an older Maserati is the way to go. Or perhaps a Tesla Model S, if you can wait a couple of years.
#28
I remember a review on Top Gear where they called the Audi "the businessman's car". It's sporty but decidedly understated in its styling (the sedans that is).
If you're that concerned about how you're perceived with the car you drive, I'd get a USED Audi. A brand new one would scream "I'm just out of law school / business school and just got a promotion!" A used A4 or A6 that is in good condition will suggest "I've been around for a while, I'm successful but not flashy about it."
And keep the 997.
If you're that concerned about how you're perceived with the car you drive, I'd get a USED Audi. A brand new one would scream "I'm just out of law school / business school and just got a promotion!" A used A4 or A6 that is in good condition will suggest "I've been around for a while, I'm successful but not flashy about it."
And keep the 997.
#29
Keep the Porsche. Get a second car.
Get a 2 yr old used Subaru Legacy GT (especially Spec. B.), 2008 or 2009, for 20-25K
It's a dynamite 4-seater, and is a GREAT driver's car, and totally under the radar...
That's my combo... (note: it's the previous generation Legacy, not the current generation, which started in 2010)
Buying a large Mercedes or Aston will not accomplish your goal....
Btw, in L.A. especially, a successful businessman driving a 2-seater Porsche as his ONLY car-- as a single man would likely do-- probably means strangers might think "gay" as often as they would think "playboy".... that's just the way it is.
Get a 2 yr old used Subaru Legacy GT (especially Spec. B.), 2008 or 2009, for 20-25K
It's a dynamite 4-seater, and is a GREAT driver's car, and totally under the radar...
That's my combo... (note: it's the previous generation Legacy, not the current generation, which started in 2010)
Buying a large Mercedes or Aston will not accomplish your goal....
Btw, in L.A. especially, a successful businessman driving a 2-seater Porsche as his ONLY car-- as a single man would likely do-- probably means strangers might think "gay" as often as they would think "playboy".... that's just the way it is.
#30
Race Director
My comments came on a bit strong. No offense. As an engineer my work spoke for itself and the only negative comments I ever heard from people about the cars I drove came from people who were expressing their jealousy, not the appropriateness of my vehicles for a specific business setting. I understand why appearances are very important for some businesses, but I've never liked that aspect. I guess that's one reason why I chose a different career path. Now that I'm retired, I don't have to care one way or another.