10% 6-spd build on GTS's ?
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10% 6-spd build on GTS's ?
Wondering if what I have heard is correct, that the PDK is 90% of the buildout on the GTS ?
I would think that will make the 6-spd more sought after due to its small availablility later on.
jason
I would think that will make the 6-spd more sought after due to its small availablility later on.
jason
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On paper its better by .4 sec, true, but it seems like the 6-spd is going to be harder to find in newer cars. Kinda losing that part of the sports car experience it seems.
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6-speed will be rarer and potentially more valuable in the future in used market.
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I don't mean to be argumentative but I disagree. It's only more valuable to those that want it. There's a reason more of the cars sold are fitted with a PDK. First, it's a trend in the marketplace as more and more people don't want to row their own and second, in order to meet fuel economy requirements, etc. the PDK gives the manufacturer more control over shift points, etc. to meet them. Many have said that the PDK upshifts too quickly for their liking. That's because the lower engine speed at higher vehicle traveling speeds contribute to lower fuel consumption. This means that the manufacturer has a greater probability of meeting CAFE requirements.
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Thinking about these cars as any sort of collector's item is delusional.
I heard there werent that many tiptronic 996's......must be some sort of a price premium!
I heard there werent that many tiptronic 996's......must be some sort of a price premium!
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Regardless, even with smaller production numbers, I doubt the manual transmission cars will ever be more valuable. Unless the PDK is later discovered to be flawed, there is no reason to think used buyers would be more interested in a manual than new buyers; demand shouldn't shift, so with given supply, prices shouldn't shift, either.
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I don't mean to be argumentative but I disagree. It's only more valuable to those that want it. There's a reason more of the cars sold are fitted with a PDK. First, it's a trend in the marketplace as more and more people don't want to row their own and second, in order to meet fuel economy requirements, etc. the PDK gives the manufacturer more control over shift points, etc. to meet them. Many have said that the PDK upshifts too quickly for their liking. That's because the lower engine speed at higher vehicle traveling speeds contribute to lower fuel consumption. This means that the manufacturer has a greater probability of meeting CAFE requirements.
Regardless, even with smaller production numbers, I doubt the manual transmission cars will ever be more valuable. Unless the PDK is later discovered to be flawed, there is no reason to think used buyers would be more interested in a manual than new buyers; demand shouldn't shift, so with given supply, prices shouldn't shift, either.
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Let's be realistic, most people don't buy PDK b/c of it's performance, they buy it b/c they can't drive manual. Among the group of people I know only 10% can drive manuals, sounds about right.
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I would guess that more than 10% of GTS buyers have the ability to drive a manual. I think the shift (no pun intended) away from manuals is equal parts because the GTS is more of a GT car (some manual buyers may have opted for a similarly priced GT3), and because dual-clutch manuals have become accepted as an automatic transmission in sports cars.