Life after 50 (...thousand miles)
05-17-2013, 02:12 PM
#16
I use it as a daily driver to take my daughter and friends to school and to go to work on a regular basis. I am not at all concerned by the IMS stuff, since it is a 2006 model year and my car gets driven on a regular basis.
I am thinking to install a third radiator and perhaps new 19 inches wheel when I have some spare money.
So far, so good.
Yves
05-18-2013, 11:05 PM
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I have just shy of 76,000 miles (picked it up at Zuffenhausen with 4 on it) and it continues to amaze with little maintenance issues. Of course, your experience may differ!
05-19-2013, 09:49 AM
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I have about 47k on my '05 as of now, bought it with about 20k. I had some random rattles (mainly the sunroof, and fixes don't seem to last long) and a starter wire that caused the car to have trouble on hot restarts. Those were taken care of during CPO. I gave in to paranoia and had the IMS bearing changed out for the ceramic one from LNE, and got a new clutch while they were in there. The clutch was about 50% worn, so it was a toss-up but I decided to go with it. It did greatly reduce the pedal effort. I also gave in to paranoia and got a long-term bumper-to-bumper aftermarket warranty on it. I had one on my last car and it paid for itself and then some, so I decided to go with it on the Porsche. So far it paid out over a grand, but I still have another 3 grand to go, so time will tell. It's not so much I worry about major breakdowns as the fact that even the small repairs are quite expensive. A few of those can really mount up. $2500 as a self-insure reserve seems a bit low if what is meant is for the life of ownership.
The biggest issue I have thus far is deterioration from age. The paint used on the interior parts scratches off easily. I took the ashtray cover in to Home Depot and they scanned it and made me a little can of touchup that matches very well. And the carpets are fading. I probably should have had the rear and side windows tinted, I'm thinking of doing it now before it gets worse. I just don't like how it restricts vision at night. Recently I bought a custom-fit carpet mat for the rear deck from Suncoast, for $99 it's very nice, has the PORSCHE logo on it and everything.
And most recently, the seals in the A/C vents have begun breaking down from age and spewing out the vents. The dealer said the only real cure is to replace the evaporator box, and my warranty won't pay for it unless the evaporator is shot. The spewing seems to have stopped for the most part so maybe the worst is over. The dealer said it won't noticeably affect the A/C performance and so far it seems to be correct.
The biggest issue I have thus far is deterioration from age. The paint used on the interior parts scratches off easily. I took the ashtray cover in to Home Depot and they scanned it and made me a little can of touchup that matches very well. And the carpets are fading. I probably should have had the rear and side windows tinted, I'm thinking of doing it now before it gets worse. I just don't like how it restricts vision at night. Recently I bought a custom-fit carpet mat for the rear deck from Suncoast, for $99 it's very nice, has the PORSCHE logo on it and everything.
And most recently, the seals in the A/C vents have begun breaking down from age and spewing out the vents. The dealer said the only real cure is to replace the evaporator box, and my warranty won't pay for it unless the evaporator is shot. The spewing seems to have stopped for the most part so maybe the worst is over. The dealer said it won't noticeably affect the A/C performance and so far it seems to be correct.
05-19-2013, 03:40 PM
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I have about 47k on my '05 as of now, bought it with about 20k. I had some random rattles (mainly the sunroof, and fixes don't seem to last long) and a starter wire that caused the car to have trouble on hot restarts. Those were taken care of during CPO. I gave in to paranoia and had the IMS bearing changed out for the ceramic one from LNE, and got a new clutch while they were in there. The clutch was about 50% worn, so it was a toss-up but I decided to go with it. It did greatly reduce the pedal effort. I also gave in to paranoia and got a long-term bumper-to-bumper aftermarket warranty on it. I had one on my last car and it paid for itself and then some, so I decided to go with it on the Porsche. So far it paid out over a grand, but I still have another 3 grand to go, so time will tell. It's not so much I worry about major breakdowns as the fact that even the small repairs are quite expensive. A few of those can really mount up. $2500 as a self-insure reserve seems a bit low if what is meant is for the life of ownership.
The biggest issue I have thus far is deterioration from age. The paint used on the interior parts scratches off easily. I took the ashtray cover in to Home Depot and they scanned it and made me a little can of touchup that matches very well. And the carpets are fading. I probably should have had the rear and side windows tinted, I'm thinking of doing it now before it gets worse. I just don't like how it restricts vision at night. Recently I bought a custom-fit carpet mat for the rear deck from Suncoast, for $99 it's very nice, has the PORSCHE logo on it and everything.
And most recently, the seals in the A/C vents have begun breaking down from age and spewing out the vents. The dealer said the only real cure is to replace the evaporator box, and my warranty won't pay for it unless the evaporator is shot. The spewing seems to have stopped for the most part so maybe the worst is over. The dealer said it won't noticeably affect the A/C performance and so far it seems to be correct.
The biggest issue I have thus far is deterioration from age. The paint used on the interior parts scratches off easily. I took the ashtray cover in to Home Depot and they scanned it and made me a little can of touchup that matches very well. And the carpets are fading. I probably should have had the rear and side windows tinted, I'm thinking of doing it now before it gets worse. I just don't like how it restricts vision at night. Recently I bought a custom-fit carpet mat for the rear deck from Suncoast, for $99 it's very nice, has the PORSCHE logo on it and everything.
And most recently, the seals in the A/C vents have begun breaking down from age and spewing out the vents. The dealer said the only real cure is to replace the evaporator box, and my warranty won't pay for it unless the evaporator is shot. The spewing seems to have stopped for the most part so maybe the worst is over. The dealer said it won't noticeably affect the A/C performance and so far it seems to be correct.
(1) Order more leather in the critical wear areas of the interior. That lousy soft 'slush finish' paint will never hold up compared to leather. I ordered leather in the higher wear areas. It makes a significant difference.
(2) If you insist on parking it outside in the sun all the time (1) keep the top up or (2) put a reflective car cover on it. Exposed to that amount of UV will accelerate the deterioration of the interior--and parts you can't even see. For example, the stuff that is failing and coming through the vents is not the vent seals, it's actually a black, large open-foamed material that is used to capture the moisture from the air conditioned air and have it drop into the tray and be gathered and expelled outside the car. With that stuff failing you will wind up with a considerable amount of moisture in your ducts and in a short while they will start to grow things (mold) and it will be a lot worse than you can imagine. You should deal with that soon or pay the consequences.
05-19-2013, 04:07 PM
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I have an '09 C4S with 91500 miles on it. It's my year-round daily driver. In the winter, it gets a set of snow tires and the rest of the year, it wears PSSs (I autocross in the warmer months here in MD). It has gone to the dealer every 10,000 miles for the scheduled service. The "odd" ones (10, 30, 50, ...) are primarily an oil change. The "even" ones are more extensive.
The only "repairs" were that the water pump started chirping about about 40k miles (and was replaced under warranty) and one of the high pressure fuel pumps failed at about 55k miles (and was replaced under a service bulletin). When it went in for the 90k, the front brakes got replaced. The clutch has been fine. The interior looks great (I garage it at home but it sits in the sun all day at work where I put a sun shade in the windsheild). The front bumper cover and hood have a number of small chips in the paint from stones and other road debris (I'd really like to get a clear cover on my next one).
It doesn't look like a new car but it's sure close. It runs and drives as well (or maybe better) as when it was brand new.
I'm actually on a waiting list for a 991 GT3. It will pick up the same routine - drive it every day (year round), autocross it (maybe add a few track days), and put 100k miles on it in 5 years and pick the next one
Scott
The only "repairs" were that the water pump started chirping about about 40k miles (and was replaced under warranty) and one of the high pressure fuel pumps failed at about 55k miles (and was replaced under a service bulletin). When it went in for the 90k, the front brakes got replaced. The clutch has been fine. The interior looks great (I garage it at home but it sits in the sun all day at work where I put a sun shade in the windsheild). The front bumper cover and hood have a number of small chips in the paint from stones and other road debris (I'd really like to get a clear cover on my next one).
It doesn't look like a new car but it's sure close. It runs and drives as well (or maybe better) as when it was brand new.
I'm actually on a waiting list for a 991 GT3. It will pick up the same routine - drive it every day (year round), autocross it (maybe add a few track days), and put 100k miles on it in 5 years and pick the next one
Scott
05-19-2013, 04:27 PM
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I think he was questioning their longevity, not their performance...
05-19-2013, 04:55 PM
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Bought mine in 2011 with around 36k on the odometer CPO'd. Am around 49k now and no major problems so far. Change the oil myself and drive it intermittently but regularly enough. PDK 2009 C4S launch car...other than wear on the side bolsters of the leather and some interior bits so far its been pretty solid. So much so that I don't think I need a 991 C4S upgrade.
05-20-2013, 03:46 PM
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OP:
I bought my 2007 C2S daily driver 1.5 years ago, and have put 20k on it since. I'm still on original clutch, and the brakes have only been replaced once, but you definitely need to have some $$$ set aside for a rainy day. Aside from regular maintenance (oil, tires, filters, etc.), I've had to do the following non-scheduled repairs:
-PSE exhaust baffle ($600)
-Water pump ($800)
-Ignition coils ($500)
-New battery ($300)
There are also a few rattles from the dash, but i think that's hard to avoid. Overall, the ownership experience has been great, but cost-wise, it's not for the faint of heart.
I just did my ignition coils for my 60k. My local indy shop said they had started to show signs of cracking, and so I replaced them at the same time as my spark plugs. Supposedly, these have been known to go bad. Not sure if I got hustled, but I figured that it was cheap peace of mind to just do it....
I bought my 2007 C2S daily driver 1.5 years ago, and have put 20k on it since. I'm still on original clutch, and the brakes have only been replaced once, but you definitely need to have some $$$ set aside for a rainy day. Aside from regular maintenance (oil, tires, filters, etc.), I've had to do the following non-scheduled repairs:
-PSE exhaust baffle ($600)
-Water pump ($800)
-Ignition coils ($500)
-New battery ($300)
There are also a few rattles from the dash, but i think that's hard to avoid. Overall, the ownership experience has been great, but cost-wise, it's not for the faint of heart.
I just did my ignition coils for my 60k. My local indy shop said they had started to show signs of cracking, and so I replaced them at the same time as my spark plugs. Supposedly, these have been known to go bad. Not sure if I got hustled, but I figured that it was cheap peace of mind to just do it....
05-20-2013, 09:05 PM
#24
A couple of things to do for your NEXT Carrera.
(1) Order more leather in the critical wear areas of the interior. That lousy soft 'slush finish' paint will never hold up compared to leather. I ordered leather in the higher wear areas. It makes a significant difference.
(2) If you insist on parking it outside in the sun all the time (1) keep the top up or (2) put a reflective car cover on it. Exposed to that amount of UV will accelerate the deterioration of the interior--and parts you can't even see. For example, the stuff that is failing and coming through the vents is not the vent seals, it's actually a black, large open-foamed material that is used to capture the moisture from the air conditioned air and have it drop into the tray and be gathered and expelled outside the car. With that stuff failing you will wind up with a considerable amount of moisture in your ducts and in a short while they will start to grow things (mold) and it will be a lot worse than you can imagine. You should deal with that soon or pay the consequences.
(1) Order more leather in the critical wear areas of the interior. That lousy soft 'slush finish' paint will never hold up compared to leather. I ordered leather in the higher wear areas. It makes a significant difference.
(2) If you insist on parking it outside in the sun all the time (1) keep the top up or (2) put a reflective car cover on it. Exposed to that amount of UV will accelerate the deterioration of the interior--and parts you can't even see. For example, the stuff that is failing and coming through the vents is not the vent seals, it's actually a black, large open-foamed material that is used to capture the moisture from the air conditioned air and have it drop into the tray and be gathered and expelled outside the car. With that stuff failing you will wind up with a considerable amount of moisture in your ducts and in a short while they will start to grow things (mold) and it will be a lot worse than you can imagine. You should deal with that soon or pay the consequences.
05-22-2013, 02:30 PM
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I picked up mine three years ago with 40K on it. Replaced water pump, plugs, coils (2x), clutch and battery. All pretty reasonable since it was pretty banged up around the edges. Now runs like a dream.
05-23-2013, 06:43 PM
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I've had to replace the coils twice on my daily driver (60+K miles) but then I live in the Chicago area. I've been told they corrode easily when you're driving year-round with salt and slush on the roads. I probably don't wash it nearly enough in the winters to avoid some of that.
I picked up mine three years ago with 40K on it. Replaced water pump, plugs, coils (2x), clutch and battery. All pretty reasonable since it was pretty banged up around the edges. Now runs like a dream.
I picked up mine three years ago with 40K on it. Replaced water pump, plugs, coils (2x), clutch and battery. All pretty reasonable since it was pretty banged up around the edges. Now runs like a dream.
