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#31
Pollen filter is 13 bucks on pelican ... http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...572-219-02-M67
It's slightly easier to put in than a home A/C filter. Fire your dealer, they are obviously not interested in your business.
It's slightly easier to put in than a home A/C filter. Fire your dealer, they are obviously not interested in your business.
#32
Right - and this was the point of my original point. The $800 isn't going to impact my life. However, I hate being taken advantage of. This was my first time at this newly opened dealer and I was curious. Lesson learned and good advice on this thread.
#33
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There are plenty of items a 997 owners can do themselves to avoid this, even if not at all familiar with things mechanical. Is it convenient to DIY? For some yes, for others no and there's nothing wrong with that. But savings when it comes to labor can be significant when attacking a project yourself. Not speaking of a clutch change, just the basic maintenance items.
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#35
So after following a question from a new 997.2 owner on a car that has a CPO Warranty.
Do I need to go to a Porsche dealer to do my regular scheduled maintenance to maintain my warranty or can I do basic service my self / take the car to my independent shop that has been working on my P cars for 10 years? ( and maintain warranty?)
The prices for service that were described in the opening post are so out if hand.
Thanks.
Do I need to go to a Porsche dealer to do my regular scheduled maintenance to maintain my warranty or can I do basic service my self / take the car to my independent shop that has been working on my P cars for 10 years? ( and maintain warranty?)
The prices for service that were described in the opening post are so out if hand.
Thanks.
#36
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If it included a full oil service, and full filter service, although expensive it's not that outrageous. Here in Canada, just Oil service costs $600+tax.
#37
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Its a little high, but its not the rape everyone is making it out to be.
Any dealer will be $150 per hour for these cars, and the parts will be at full list.
Looking at that list, I don't see anything padded. The parts cost is high, but 2.5 hours of labor doesn't seem out of line for what was done, including the time spend to pull the car in, put it on the lift, etc.
its not unicef, its a high end car dealer. If you find this unreasonable, do it yourself or find a much cheaper indy.
Any dealer will be $150 per hour for these cars, and the parts will be at full list.
Looking at that list, I don't see anything padded. The parts cost is high, but 2.5 hours of labor doesn't seem out of line for what was done, including the time spend to pull the car in, put it on the lift, etc.
its not unicef, its a high end car dealer. If you find this unreasonable, do it yourself or find a much cheaper indy.
#38
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#39
Is it expensive? Yes. But you're not driving a Kia. Most here are also forgetting what else goes into a Yearly Service besides just an oil change and "inspection". Basic 10k services will vary in price depending on any number of factors, but the Yearly will usually include clearing of the radiators and body drains (including rears below conv. top), lubricating of all hinges and actuators (including for conv. top), testing and refilling the battery, and yes, the Porsche model specific and time based inspection. Throw in some overpriced filters with labor to do all of this and you can easily reach that price.
Can it be cheaper? Yes. Can you handle a lot of it yourself if you are so inclined? Yes. But the same principle goes for an expensive meal out... You can purchase and prepare everything from steak to fine wine yourself, or you can spend your time doing other things while spending your money having someone else purchase, prepare, serve, and then clean it up for you.
Same goes for your $85k+ 911.
Can it be cheaper? Yes. Can you handle a lot of it yourself if you are so inclined? Yes. But the same principle goes for an expensive meal out... You can purchase and prepare everything from steak to fine wine yourself, or you can spend your time doing other things while spending your money having someone else purchase, prepare, serve, and then clean it up for you.
Same goes for your $85k+ 911.
#40
Drifting
OP should have asked what would be done and at what cost. My dealer always tells me that up front. I am pretty sure that one of the questions Porsche asks customers on surveys following service work is related to actual cost of service vs estimated cost. Service advisor should have given him an estimate.
#42
I called two Porsche dealerships when my 996 was due for it's 60,000 mile service. The one in Raleigh, NC quoted me $1400 IIRC and the Fayetteville, NC dealership quoted me $900. I also gave the service managers my e-mail address and requested they send me the list of items taken care of during the service. Surprisingly, the Fayetteville service covered more items.
Guess which one got my business...
Guess which one got my business...
#43
Drifting
So after following a question from a new 997.2 owner on a car that has a CPO Warranty.
Do I need to go to a Porsche dealer to do my regular scheduled maintenance to maintain my warranty or can I do basic service my self / take the car to my independent shop that has been working on my P cars for 10 years? ( and maintain warranty?)
Do I need to go to a Porsche dealer to do my regular scheduled maintenance to maintain my warranty or can I do basic service my self / take the car to my independent shop that has been working on my P cars for 10 years? ( and maintain warranty?)
I called two Porsche dealerships when my 996 was due for it's 60,000 mile service. The one in Raleigh, NC quoted me $1400 IIRC and the Fayetteville, NC dealership quoted me $900. I also gave the service managers my e-mail address and requested they send me the list of items taken care of during the service. Surprisingly, the Fayetteville service covered more items.
Guess which one got my business...
Guess which one got my business...
#44
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unfortunately those prices are typical for 'maintenance' they do. 2-3 hours of 'work' and some additional imaginary 'service' and so it comes to $800.
for those reasons alone it is way better to have your own local indi mechanic you could trust (a bit as he also would be money hungry) but indi people are usually less inclined to create artificial bills for replacement of $60 charcoal air filter.
it is also a reason why most of us fix our cars on our own. it saves a ton of $$$.
I never did any maintenance at the dealer and never had problems getting CPO coverage for repairs I did at the dealer while CPO lasted. Now I am in free falling mode and it makes life easier somewhat.
for those reasons alone it is way better to have your own local indi mechanic you could trust (a bit as he also would be money hungry) but indi people are usually less inclined to create artificial bills for replacement of $60 charcoal air filter.
it is also a reason why most of us fix our cars on our own. it saves a ton of $$$.
I never did any maintenance at the dealer and never had problems getting CPO coverage for repairs I did at the dealer while CPO lasted. Now I am in free falling mode and it makes life easier somewhat.
#45
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it is an old trick - they lift up your car and let oil drip out for 2 hours then they charge full labor for all lift time.