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I'll try to keep this brief as my fingers hurt from hitting the 'like' button on all the other posts. Finally a GT2 post!
Rarity - I was lucky enough to purchase one of the 7 Canadian cars (now the 19th or 21st US car depending on who's numbers you believe). It's rare. I never even see 2008's on the road or track.
Driving Experience - While many here have more experience/cars than me, I think it's the most amazing car I've ever driven. Nothing comes close to the driving experience other than maybe a 997GT2RS (but I've never been in one).
Turbo vs Au Naturel - You can see my cars in my sig which are quite varied. I don't prescribe to either turbo/no turbo, but do have friends who refuse to consider one or the other. They are simply different experiences. Turbo lag...or the kick when they hit, is the reason I love my 996TT and the GT2.
TT or GT2? - Get both. Which TT? Here comes some heresy...... I've driven my 996TT, a 997TT, and a 991TT all back to back. As you progress through these cars you realize the changes with the engine shifting forward reducing the 911 "head bob", the over/understeer adjustments from the engineers, and the ever reducing turbo lag. All of those things technically make the car faster, and easier to drive fast, but also less exciting in my opinion. I had no interest in the 991 as a result, and stuck with the 996TT (modified) as my daily.
Insanity - This is why the GT2 simply amazes. It warps your view on what is normal. It is a beast on the track and backroads. 100 feels like 40. The GT2 is the essence of precision and then throws in a whole bunch of crazy. As the Jezza would say: POWAAAAAAAAH!
Clutch - It's stiffer than the 996GT2 cutch I have in my 996TT, but it's fine.
Interior - The interior of the 2009 with the upgraded PCM is the way to go but there aren't many that come available. The 987/997 interior is pretty timeless and worth it, but you might not want to trust me as I think the 996TT interior with the ovals is awesome.
I'll try to keep this brief as my fingers hurt from hitting the 'like' button on all the other posts. Finally a GT2 post!
Rarity - I was lucky enough to purchase one of the 7 Canadian cars (now the 19th or 21st US car depending on who's numbers you believe). It's rare. I never even see 2008's on the road or track.
Driving Experience - While many here have more experience/cars than me, I think it's the most amazing car I've ever driven. Nothing comes close to the driving experience other than maybe a 997GT2RS (but I've never been in one).
Turbo vs Au Naturel - You can see my cars in my sig which are quite varied. I don't prescribe to either turbo/no turbo, but do have friends who refuse to consider one or the other. They are simply different experiences. Turbo lag...or the kick when they hit, is the reason I love my 996TT and the GT2.
TT or GT2? - Get both. Which TT? Here comes some heresy...... I've driven my 996TT, a 997TT, and a 991TT all back to back. As you progress through these cars you realize the changes with the engine shifting forward reducing the 911 "head bob", the over/understeer adjustments from the engineers, and the ever reducing turbo lag. All of those things technically make the car faster, and easier to drive fast, but also less exciting in my opinion. I had no interest in the 991 as a result, and stuck with the 996TT (modified) as my daily.
Insanity - This is why the GT2 simply amazes. It warps your view on what is normal. It is a beast on the track and backroads. 100 feels like 40. The GT2 is the essence of precision and then throws in a whole bunch of crazy. As the Jezza would say: POWAAAAAAAAH!
Clutch - It's stiffer than the 996GT2 cutch I have in my 996TT, but it's fine.
Interior - The interior of the 2009 with the upgraded PCM is the way to go but there aren't many that come available. The 987/997 interior is pretty timeless and worth it, but you might not want to trust me as I think the 996TT interior with the ovals is awesome.
Do it.
Your white 997.1 GT2 is glorious...thanks for coming by to share more photos! Like you, I always get excited to see more GT2 content in this section!
Bone stock my GT2 put down 490 rwhp on a Dynojet last summer. I have purchased a Cobb AP v3 for it but haven't applied the OTS tune yet as I want to do some Dragy datalogging yet for in gear acceleration before I flash it. I expect to pick up at least 30 rwhp even from the OTS tune, with more available if I get a custom tune. The GT2 is a beast and will run away and hide from a 997.1 GT3 RS in a straight line! From a handling standpoint things get a little more complicated, but the longer the straights, the more advantage goes to the GT2. It really is mostly a GT3 with boost after all.
Sorry guys, should have been more clear...my question was more directed to what it would take to make a 7.1 gt2 hang with a 7.1 gt2rs. Sounds like with a tune you can get close, at least in terms of engine power.
Sorry guys, should have been more clear...my question was more directed to what it would take to make a 7.1 gt2 hang with a 7.1 gt2rs. Sounds like with a tune you can get close, at least in terms of engine power.
I'll be doing pretty much what you asked for with my car. I'd say adding GT2RS intercoolers, lightweight flywheel, and cranking up the boost via a tune and exhaust would get it done, or at least get you very close.
I believe the turbos may actually be different though, so for a real comparison you would likely need to upgrade those too, and I'm unclear if the fuel system is different. Where my car may be 85-90% of a GT2 RS experience, I plan to up that to around 95% with the modifications I'll be performing over time. If I ever decide to upgrade the turbos, I'm going to surpass GT2 RS levels as I will choose aftermarket units that are capable of a bit more.
*EDIT* I found a reference to mechanical differences over on another forum, and here is what was divulged (back in 2011), and I'm glad to see it's similar to what I posted above. Unclear on absolute accuracy of course. Here are those observations (not from me):
-the turbos are different and better - not sure how.
-think the pistons and fuel injection are the same - not for sure
-the suspension is using monoball joints instead of rose joints(eliminates any rubber) so much more stable chasis when turning and hitting any bumps, and improves turn in and feel, does not make ride harsher.
-the clutch is using a lighter fly wheel .
-the intercoolers are much better.
Last edited by Steve Theodore; 04-17-2020 at 01:10 PM.
Here is a fun article from about 1.5 years ago speaking to why the 997.1 GT2 is a great potential 911 buy (I obviously followed these instructions well and did choose to buy!)
-the turbos are different and better - not sure how.
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GT2RS turbos are exact same part number as regular GT2 ie they are the same, no difference
This is good it means GT2RS intercoolers, 200 cell cats and a bit more boost with a remap and you will get your 620PS..... My advice would be to get you tuner to go easy on the mid range torque, keep it around the 700NM mark or the extra boost in the lower revs will overwhelm the system and limit your peak power - despite what your 8 second dyne run might say
I don't mean to hijack this thread but in all likelihood I will be putting up my recently acquired pristine stock black 2008 GT2 up for sale [2,900+ miles], due in great part to ongoing issues with leg/foot neuropathy. Seek to recoup what I have into it. Will eventually put up a marketplace ad. Anyone who may be interested in it now can PM me. Thanks. Bruce
Is that Dark Blue Metallic? Incredible. Would be my first choice, but looking back over the years see these are rare among the already rare. Thanks for sharing. All this is definitely pushing me in this direction.
This is so great all us GT2 owners finally coming out to say hello!
Steve, if you are considering upgrading your intercoolers, I would bypass the GT2RS units and go with these instead. A lot of the hype for the RS intercoolers was back when the RS came out and there was not much else reasonably available in terms of .1 upgrades.
Watching that RS auction on BaT myself…will be interesting to see how it goes with the economy the way it is, but other than the smaller productions numbers, hard to justify the historic valuation differences between the .1 and the RS based on actual mechanical differences between the two cars. Carbon hood, ball joints, centerlocks (a negative IMHO), slightly wider 245 profile front tires, slightly better intercoolers...meh.
04-17-2020, 08:34 AM
