high mileage 997.2 GT3 (over 80.000miles) experiences
#31
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New member from Germany here and hopefully it is OK to piggyback on this thread.
I will do a quick intro once I get a 997.2 GT3 myself finally. Maybe you could help me out with the following car i am debating on getting:
I am a little hesitant since the car in question has around 72K miles, but on the other hand I won't be thinking about keeping the miles low and drive the heck out of it.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
I will do a quick intro once I get a 997.2 GT3 myself finally. Maybe you could help me out with the following car i am debating on getting:
I am a little hesitant since the car in question has around 72K miles, but on the other hand I won't be thinking about keeping the miles low and drive the heck out of it.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
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#32
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72K miles.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
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#33
New member from Germany here and hopefully it is OK to piggyback on this thread.
I will do a quick intro once I get a 997.2 GT3 myself finally. Maybe you could help me out with the following car i am debating on getting:
I am a little hesitant since the car in question has around 72K miles, but on the other hand I won't be thinking about keeping the miles low and drive the heck out of it.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
I will do a quick intro once I get a 997.2 GT3 myself finally. Maybe you could help me out with the following car i am debating on getting:
I am a little hesitant since the car in question has around 72K miles, but on the other hand I won't be thinking about keeping the miles low and drive the heck out of it.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
Last edited by SiNzz; 02-06-2024 at 02:10 AM. Reason: typo editing
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M3glaubiger (02-06-2024)
#34
It's less than 5K miles a year. Drivers are the best because you get to drive them. Find a good midpoint on price where both parties are satisfied. My GT3 just crested 50K miles. Runs better than ever likely because it gets hammered when the opportunity arises, but mostly it gets driven regularly, and cared for appropriately. P-cars, especially 911"s, were built for endurance....durability. They are tough and ready when you are. No need to over think. $10 - $12K less is fair, all things being relatively equal. These cars will spoil you for anything else.
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#35
Thanks a lot for all the replies. You are making my decision easier. Seller is out of country for the next few weeks. Will keep you guys posted.
Man, it is getting harder to sleep at night with that engine noise in my head and the virtual shift **** in my hand . It feels like 16 years ago when I bought my e46 comp. package
Man, it is getting harder to sleep at night with that engine noise in my head and the virtual shift **** in my hand . It feels like 16 years ago when I bought my e46 comp. package
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M3glaubiger (02-06-2024)
#37
New member from Germany here and hopefully it is OK to piggyback on this thread.
I will do a quick intro once I get a 997.2 GT3 myself finally. Maybe you could help me out with the following car i am debating on getting:
I am a little hesitant since the car in question has around 72K miles, but on the other hand I won't be thinking about keeping the miles low and drive the heck out of it.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
I will do a quick intro once I get a 997.2 GT3 myself finally. Maybe you could help me out with the following car i am debating on getting:
I am a little hesitant since the car in question has around 72K miles, but on the other hand I won't be thinking about keeping the miles low and drive the heck out of it.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
Bought my .2 CS three years ago with 43k KMs and am now at 92k KM (57k Miles). Most of them Track miles and car feels as sturdy and "new" as when I bought it so high mileage is not an issue IMHO. I would buy one with high mileage any time given car is being well maintained which yours seems to be.
One point to take into consideration is e.g. suspension that I think needs replacement with this amount of Miles. I replaced mine at like 85k KM for a KW V3 CS and at the same time replaced all rubber hoses and cooling lines to ensure cooling continues to run smoothly and reliably (as a data point: I did 60 laps over a weekend at NOS at 35 degrees Celsius without any issues, amazing!). 10k€ roughly for both and something you might want to consider next to the other points the others have already mentioned (e.g. clutch). More a question of budget and willingness to look into it rather than something that will be urgently needed...
I am also based in Germany (Munich) so if you want to chat, DM me anytime.
Cheers
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M3glaubiger (02-06-2024)
#38
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Sounds like an amazing car. How did the seller know about the 82-year-old owner? It's nice that it has a warranty. I would confirm the ability to transfer it. I've owned quite a few performance/exotics and the 997 GT3 is by far the best for longevity. AMGs are built really well, but they are so complex. On 991s I would deduct $1 a mile up to a certain point. On a 997 GT3 it would be less, but wear is wear. You can't deny that. Maybe somebody can chime in on what other tests to do during a PPI on a higher-mileage car. Maybe a leakdown test?
#39
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Thanks a lot for all the replies. You are making my decision easier. Seller is out of country for the next few weeks. Will keep you guys posted.
Man, it is getting harder to sleep at night with that engine noise in my head and the virtual shift **** in my hand . It feels like 16 years ago when I bought my e46 comp. package
Man, it is getting harder to sleep at night with that engine noise in my head and the virtual shift **** in my hand . It feels like 16 years ago when I bought my e46 comp. package
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#40
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Thanks a lot for all the replies. You are making my decision easier. Seller is out of country for the next few weeks. Will keep you guys posted.
Man, it is getting harder to sleep at night with that engine noise in my head and the virtual shift **** in my hand . It feels like 16 years ago when I bought my e46 comp. package
Man, it is getting harder to sleep at night with that engine noise in my head and the virtual shift **** in my hand . It feels like 16 years ago when I bought my e46 comp. package
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#41
Dyno @ 75,000 miles @ about to be at 80k now
Run 1: 387whp
Run 2: 386whp
Run 1: 387whp
Run 2: 386whp
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Here is an anecdotal data point for you (albeit on a 996.2 gt3). I just had my engine rebuilt with a 3.9 (because I wanted to, not because it was "worn out" or broken).. Car had 70k miles on it and frankly, a spotty maintenance history, some really bad "attempted" prior transmission repairs, and TONS of hard track time. Before I rebuilt it I had no smoking, no weird noised, no check engine lights, no leaks, no low oil pressure, etc... The only thing I could really identify was a little more top end "valve train" noise than any of my other mezgers gt3's exhibited. When I rebuilt it I was curious to see how she looked insdie. Very well respected builder who is a mezger specialist (former head engine builder at Evoms) said there was virtually no where and tons of life left. So, there you go. These cars are stout.
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#44
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Here is an anecdotal data point for you (albeit on a 996.2 gt3). I just had my engine rebuilt with a 3.9 (because I wanted to, not because it was "worn out" or broken).. Car had 70k miles on it and frankly, a spotty maintenance history, some really bad "attempted" prior transmission repairs, and TONS of hard track time. Before I rebuilt it I had no smoking, no weird noised, no check engine lights, no leaks, no low oil pressure, etc... The only thing I could really identify was a little more top end "valve train" noise than any of my other mezgers gt3's exhibited. When I rebuilt it I was curious to see how she looked insdie. Very well respected builder who is a mezger specialist (former head engine builder at Evoms) said there was virtually no where and tons of life left. So, there you go. These cars are stout.
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#45
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New member from Germany here and hopefully it is OK to piggyback on this thread.
I will do a quick intro once I get a 997.2 GT3 myself finally. Maybe you could help me out with the following car i am debating on getting:
I am a little hesitant since the car in question has around 72K miles, but on the other hand I won't be thinking about keeping the miles low and drive the heck out of it.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
I will do a quick intro once I get a 997.2 GT3 myself finally. Maybe you could help me out with the following car i am debating on getting:
I am a little hesitant since the car in question has around 72K miles, but on the other hand I won't be thinking about keeping the miles low and drive the heck out of it.
Car has only been maintained at Porsche dealers only and has a Porsche approved warranty until the end of the year.
Accident and respray free, looks very clean in all the pics the owner sent, definitely no track use in the last 50k miles (haven't figured out yet if any before that). 2nd owner was 82 years old when he sold it and daily drove it for 8 years. Car has the CS package incl. the folding buckets. rotors and pads fairly new (not PCCB).
Would you you guys get a GT3 with that many miles on it if everything checks out and how much do you think it would be worth? I know the market for GT3s in Germany is a little different than the US atm, but would love to hear your opinion.
Thanks for replying. My problem is that I don't have any comps, mileage wise. I haven't seen above 50k miles for sale in quite some time and it feels like prices are going up. Cars with half the miles go for about $135 - $145 here...not sure about being as clean though. Would $30k less be fair for double the miles? .
Thanks a lot for all the replies. You are making my decision easier. Seller is out of country for the next few weeks. Will keep you guys posted.
Man, it is getting harder to sleep at night with that engine noise in my head and the virtual shift **** in my hand . It feels like 16 years ago when I bought my e46 comp. package
Man, it is getting harder to sleep at night with that engine noise in my head and the virtual shift **** in my hand . It feels like 16 years ago when I bought my e46 comp. package