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Old 05-01-2009, 08:53 PM
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Hi guys,

This is my first post and i am happy to join you.

I have a small problem which am sure crazy gt2 owners has faced>>>
I tried to lower my 997 gt2 and to get every penny out of it by using everything it has :P.... however, the car didnt drop from the front although I spined all the coilover down to bottom.. any tips I should know about the suspention of this nice car?
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Hi MHD, Welcome to Rennlist, I moved this thread to the 997GT2 Forum.
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Originally Posted by mhd212
Hi guys,

This is my first post and i am happy to join you.

I have a small problem which am sure crazy gt2 owners has faced>>>
I tried to lower my 997 gt2 and to get every penny out of it by using everything it has :P.... however, the car didnt drop from the front although I spined all the coilover down to bottom.. any tips I should know about the suspention of this nice car?
OT, nice car.
what is the color called?
ruby red?
Old 05-03-2009, 06:23 PM
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um, your car will have severe bump steer. you need to change the uprights and get a bump kit f/r
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Originally Posted by Marc Gelefsky
Hi MHD, Welcome to Rennlist, I moved this thread to the 997GT2 Forum.
what GT2 forum???
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yea the collor is ruby red
i dont have any problem with lowering my car sine there are no speed bumpers around my place
thats why I am soo keen to lower it.
Any idea how to lower the front?
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^ your car is on fully adjustable coil overs. just take it to a good race shop and they can lower it to the pavement. do keep in mind your suspension geometry may be negative affected if lowered too much.
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On standard coilovers you should not go lower than -10, otherwise the spring does risk to move when lifting the car or on a bump.

Changing dampers for something with pre-load springs, you can easily go as low as -20.

At -25 you put too much weight on the front (as you cannot lower the rear enough to keep the balance), so I would not do it.

At -20, anyway, a careful alignment should be done. Firstly, because of increased bump steer, which you can compensate someway going to neutral toe; this is anyway something you should like driving with: as anything related to alignment, it is rather subjective and related to your driving style. Secondly, you should increase negative camber a bit more than you are used to; you have to check this properly with tyre temperatures; by the way, to increase front camber more than -2.5*, you need to rotate the cookies.

Hope this helps,
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Originally Posted by pmf
On standard coilovers you should not go lower than -10, otherwise the spring does risk to move when lifting the car or on a bump.

Changing dampers for something with pre-load springs, you can easily go as low as -20.

At -25 you put too much weight on the front (as you cannot lower the rear enough to keep the balance), so I would not do it.

At -20, anyway, a careful alignment should be done. Firstly, because of increased bump steer, which you can compensate someway going to neutral toe; this is anyway something you should like driving with: as anything related to alignment, it is rather subjective and related to your driving style. Secondly, you should increase negative camber a bit more than you are used to; you have to check this properly with tyre temperatures; by the way, to increase front camber more than -2.5*, you need to rotate the cookies.

Hope this helps,
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Originally Posted by pmf
On standard coilovers you should not go lower than -10, otherwise the spring does risk to move when lifting the car or on a bump.

Changing dampers for something with pre-load springs, you can easily go as low as -20.

At -25 you put too much weight on the front (as you cannot lower the rear enough to keep the balance), so I would not do it.

At -20, anyway, a careful alignment should be done. Firstly, because of increased bump steer, which you can compensate someway going to neutral toe; this is anyway something you should like driving with: as anything related to alignment, it is rather subjective and related to your driving style. Secondly, you should increase negative camber a bit more than you are used to; you have to check this properly with tyre temperatures; by the way, to increase front camber more than -2.5*, you need to rotate the cookies.

Hope this helps,
Cheers.
What kind of front to rear rake do you have?
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Originally Posted by mhd212
Hi guys,

This is my first post and i am happy to join you.

I have a small problem which am sure crazy gt2 owners has faced>>>
I tried to lower my 997 gt2 and to get every penny out of it by using everything it has :P.... however, the car didnt drop from the front although I spined all the coilover down to bottom.. any tips I should know about the suspention of this nice car?
moving the spring perches down in an axle will definitely lower the car, don't get confused by the shocks not being fully compressed as soon as you drop the car from the jack stands or floor jack. Drive the car for a few miles and you will see the new ride height.

Most likely, you have messed up the alignment, because dropping the ride height changes camber and toe.
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What kind of front to rear rake do you have?
No idea, to be honest

The only thing I can tell you is that the front is 553kg, the rear is 913kg, for a 38%front / 62%rear weight ratio

Silly enough, I didn't weight the car with the factory standard setup to note the std weight ratio, but I think I'm not too far from correct

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no no no, he's talking about chassis height ratio f/r Incredibly important.

If he lowers it below 90mm it will be undrivable without more suspension changes. IMHO
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anybody know how high can you raise a gt3/2 within reason?
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
anybody know how high can you raise a gt3/2 within reason?
40mm


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