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Old 03-02-2012, 04:55 PM
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Gavin and Amy,

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What a great level of explanation of risk at Bishop Bend.

I feel chicken because I brake hard before entering Bishop, but I'd rather gain speed through it while on the gas, than entering at higher speeds and having to control the rear end losing grip. This is my comfort zone, I feel chicken, I still lap in 2:17 on DOT tires with a car 2 secs slower than a 3.8 RS at Sebring (last paragraph intended to DE Cup drivers with airs of supremacy, and lousy driving skills). ...
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Gavin and Amy,

Thanks so much !!!

What a great level of explanation of risk at Bishop Bend.

I feel chicken because I brake hard before entering Bishop, but I'd rather gain speed through it while on the gas, than entering at higher speeds and having to control the rear end losing grip. This is my comfort zone, I feel chicken, I still lap in 2:17 on DOT tires with a car 2 secs slower than a 3.8 RS at Sebring (last paragraph intended to DE Cup drivers with airs of supremacy, and lousy driving skills).
Rad,

After watching video of you, Rad, and the DE Cup drivers I wouldn't run my mouth so much. They are better than you. ; Your so called DOT tires ie Hoosier A6 are comparable to a slick for the 1st couple of laps until they overheat.
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After watching video of you, Rad, and the DE Cup drivers I wouldn't run my mouth so much. They are better than you. ; Your so called DOT tires ie Hoosier A6 are comparable to a slick for the 1st couple of laps until they overheat.
My Fiat put less power down (397whp), no wings, no splitters, no dive planes, no gurney lip, no short diameter tires, no monster traction, 7 secs slower at the Nurburgring, old A6, and a much worse driver, still the Aero Beetles can't catch it.

...and I have data comparing A6 to Michelin slicks, dream on for thinking they have similar grip, I have driven on them many times. Remember, I ran slicks for 4 years.

New Challenge (called at Winterfest and no takers): Best Aero Beetle lap + Best Fiat lap, this much worse drover against any of the much better drivers.

Warmup lap, 2 hot laps, a cool down. Next NASA Time Trials at Sebring. Takers?
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Rad, the lies never stop. Lol. All we have to do is click on your link at Daytona and watch you outrun beetles with your so called less horse power than a 3.8
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
My Fiat put less power down (397whp), no wings, no splitters, no dive planes, no gurney lip, no short diameter tires, no monster traction, 7 secs slower at the Nurburgring, old A6, and a much worse driver, still the Aero Beetles can't catch it.

...and I have data comparing A6 to Michelin slicks, dream on for thinking they have similar grip, I have driven on them many times. Remember, I ran slicks for 4 years.

New Challenge (called at Winterfest and no takers): Best Aero Beetle lap + Best Fiat lap, this much worse drover against any of the much better drivers.

Warmup lap, 2 hot laps, a cool down. Next NASA Time Trials at Sebring. Takers?
I'll be there. Run a true street tire like me and let's see where the chips fall.
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Originally Posted by NJ-GT
My Fiat put less power down (397whp), no wings, no splitters, no dive planes, no gurney lip, no short diameter tires, no monster traction, 7 secs slower at the Nurburgring, old A6, and a much worse driver, still the Aero Beetles can't catch it.

...and I have data comparing A6 to Michelin slicks, dream on for thinking they have similar grip, I have driven on them many times. Remember, I ran slicks for 4 years.

New Challenge (called at Winterfest and no takers): Best Aero Beetle lap + Best Fiat lap, this much worse drover against any of the much better drivers.

Warmup lap, 2 hot laps, a cool down. Next NASA Time Trials at Sebring. Takers?
Dang Rad you sound like you're ready to point me by in the GTS! ;-)
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Rad,

Stop drinking absenthe.... lol

You would coast through turns, and would fly up on the RS's after getting on gas. Your car is crazy fast....
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Rad went of the deep end. Lying hallucinating or just visions of grandure?
Time to throw the towel.

Sell fiat and buy 4.0 before it gets embarrassing.
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Fifty on the flying Dutchman or any of the trained 4l boys.

Plus, If I lose , free RL membership for 3 years.
If Rad goes down , I will prepare a signature for him.
(and yes, it will include derogatory terms for Ferrari : ) )

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Not to take away from gavins awesome post and Driving, but Rads 2 lap wonder might be faster with his 490 HP.

Let's do a 45 minute session. First one across the line on same dot tires wins.
Fiffy? Let's double that.
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45 minutes? I am shipping the 6 and driving myself lol
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Hehe. I'll start a sponsorship campaign to make that happen.
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Rad your Ferrari is easy capable of 2:18's with a de driver..pro driver lop off another few seconds.

However for a 45 min de cup run...I'm going with my Dutch friend.
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If they loose that would mean they are behind you and that would mean they would be on fire so they have lots to loose if they dont win
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