chantaiman51

I've found these photo last night browsing a Chinese car forum. According to some posters there, the accident took place last year in Germany and close to some highway near Nurburgring. The accident was caused by the drunk driver loosing control in a Chevrolet Cruze.

Do you guys think both the 3.8 and 4.0 are totaled?

Sorry if this is a repost.

savyboy

Personally I would buy both as salvage title and use for track ******. So many people are terrified of wrecked cars, but both of those could be fixed and made quite fast.

Macster

Well, with the benefit of savoyboy's post I'd say yes with a qualifier.

They are both totaled, or will be totaled.

But if one has access to the know-how and equipment even though totaled the car could be resurrected to some level of acceptable and safe condition, such as a track car. I guess as long as the track's management or the organization that hosts events at the track has no rules regarding the use of totaled cars being turned into a track car that's a fitting end to a car that would otherwise be crushed and its bones likely ending up being used to make a Chevy Cruze. <Sigh>

For us mere mortals those cars are toast.

Sincerely,

Macster.

Todd B

At least it wasn't a CL failure....

tcsracing1

+1!

stevecolletti

I'm with Pete and Tom,

The 'right' people can fix anything. It's really a question about is it 'worth' spending the money to fix.

I have no idea where the "'wrecked' cars can't be repaired" school of thought came from. Most (now) vintage race cars have suffered a far worse shunt during their competitive years and almost all are now in better condition than when the originally raced.

tradervic

Should I change my badge to to 599?

triode

Seeing the 4.0 in particular is just painful.

LastMezger

Yet this is even more sad...

sharkster

ROFL!!!!

stout

Amen.

TTurbine

I dont beleive in anything being totaled.. Tub damaged ? Order a new Tub , Evreything can be replaced..
One downside is that when repairing a totaled car is that the cost might exceed or be close to buying a new or slighty used similar car.

Doc GTO

The story was the Cruze was going the wrong way on a part of the Ring when it ran into the P-cars.

Alan Smithee

Those photos are not "on" the Nurburgring.

Macster

Well for most of us in this situation we are dealing with an insurance company that will not provide one a blank check in which to fix a car.

My new (4 week old) Cayman S was hit at the driver's side front wheel well and the other driver was clearly at fault. Her insurance company accepted responsibility (though it tried to get me to file a claim with my insurance company -- illegal! -- but the other insurance company wouldn't put this in writing 'cause had it there would have been heck to pay!) and its claim adjuster -- several in fact including the last one titled "exotic car specialist" -- all agreed the car was totaled. The estimated repair bill came to around $42K -- this is the amount at which they stopped counting (my body shop friend told me -- and this agrees with my limited experience in this area -- the amount would go up as the repair progressed) and I had paid just $50.6K (marked down/discounted from $62.6K) for the thing not hardly 4 weeks prior.

A new tub was needed (one could clearly see the front trunk had a twist to it and the driver's side A pillar was horribly pushed in along with the side rail along the base of the driver's door), front bumper cover, front fenders, hood, and because both air bags fired the dash was ruined, front cross-member to which the suspension/steering bolts to, even the cast iron steering knuckles (which were broken), windshield, the driver's side door, 3 wheels, and numerous internals like radiators, A/C condensors, headlights, and so on.

The cost to resurrect this car would have easily exceeded its cost new. Then there was the question of its new car warranty. The car only had 2200 miles on it and unlikely it would have kept its warranty.

The car's salvage value was estimated to be around $17K. I retained possession of the car and after getting a salvage title sold the car at an auction of severely damaged vehicles for a bit over $20K.

While the car was totaled and the other driver's insurance company had no interest in funding a blank check repair of this car and even if it had I certainly wasn't interested, someone thought they could fix the car and and paid $20.3K for the thing.

Thank goodness. I wanted no part of that car after the accident.

Sincerely,

Macster.