997.2 GT3 to 991 GT3 - Would You trade?
05-08-2015, 02:30 AM
#46
Burning Brakes
I have a 991 RS en route. I have not sold my 7.2 GT3. My bet is that it ends up staying over the 991 RS.
I can daily driver it, heal-toe in my wood-bottomed dress shoes, drive it spiritedly, and cruise on highways,... great track set-up, SW bypass, and it is perfect. It is still here with me. I think about this car FAR more than I do about the incoming 991 RS. I have never brought up my 991 RS order; only others have and I don't really care to chat about it.
I drove it to a new dealer launch in my area yesterday; with all the new 991's and new GT3 and others,... my car got a ton of great attention. It is still relevant and looks damn good as is.
The other side is not always brighter and greener. Like ChrisF,... it's been tough thinking about what to do. But this car is so damn good at what it does. I would buy it back in a heartbeat above everything in the market right now.
The Greek said it perfectly,... and Nick can seriously drive(!)
I can daily driver it, heal-toe in my wood-bottomed dress shoes, drive it spiritedly, and cruise on highways,... great track set-up, SW bypass, and it is perfect. It is still here with me. I think about this car FAR more than I do about the incoming 991 RS. I have never brought up my 991 RS order; only others have and I don't really care to chat about it.
I drove it to a new dealer launch in my area yesterday; with all the new 991's and new GT3 and others,... my car got a ton of great attention. It is still relevant and looks damn good as is.
The other side is not always brighter and greener. Like ChrisF,... it's been tough thinking about what to do. But this car is so damn good at what it does. I would buy it back in a heartbeat above everything in the market right now.
The Greek said it perfectly,... and Nick can seriously drive(!)
05-08-2015, 02:15 PM
#47
Trade it if you like flipping cars every 3 or so yrs..but a 15 would be a better choice than a 14
If you are a techno guy who has to have latest greatest, trade it ..
Keep the 997 if you must have stick shift or want to look at some appreciation in the next few yrs.
If you are a techno guy who has to have latest greatest, trade it ..
Keep the 997 if you must have stick shift or want to look at some appreciation in the next few yrs.
05-08-2015, 02:36 PM
#48
Rennlist Member
I have a 991 RS en route. I have not sold my 7.2 GT3. My bet is that it ends up staying over the 991 RS.
I can daily driver it, heal-toe in my wood-bottomed dress shoes, drive it spiritedly, and cruise on highways,... great track set-up, SW bypass, and it is perfect. It is still here with me. I think about this car FAR more than I do about the incoming 991 RS. I have never brought up my 991 RS order; only others have and I don't really care to chat about it.
I drove it to a new dealer launch in my area yesterday; with all the new 991's and new GT3 and others,... my car got a ton of great attention. It is still relevant and looks damn good as is.
The other side is not always brighter and greener. Like ChrisF,... it's been tough thinking about what to do. But this car is so damn good at what it does. I would buy it back in a heartbeat above everything in the market right now.
The Greek said it perfectly,... and Nick can seriously drive(!)
I can daily driver it, heal-toe in my wood-bottomed dress shoes, drive it spiritedly, and cruise on highways,... great track set-up, SW bypass, and it is perfect. It is still here with me. I think about this car FAR more than I do about the incoming 991 RS. I have never brought up my 991 RS order; only others have and I don't really care to chat about it.
I drove it to a new dealer launch in my area yesterday; with all the new 991's and new GT3 and others,... my car got a ton of great attention. It is still relevant and looks damn good as is.
The other side is not always brighter and greener. Like ChrisF,... it's been tough thinking about what to do. But this car is so damn good at what it does. I would buy it back in a heartbeat above everything in the market right now.
The Greek said it perfectly,... and Nick can seriously drive(!)
05-08-2015, 04:54 PM
#49
Burning Brakes
I'm still betting my 991 RS doesn't make it past 2015. I can't get over a PDK GT3; I don't want my wife to drive it. I almost gave up on cars and went MP4-12C when only PDK 991 GT3s were announced.
7.2 GT3 is the right car to buy and drive to the ground. I want to do a SW 4.0 conversion after I blow up the engine. I should ask you to help me with that at Sebring next time!
It was only you and Clarke doing justice for the 7.2 non-RS.
05-09-2015, 01:15 AM
#50
Rennlist Member
05-09-2015, 02:28 AM
#51
Rennlist Member
I'll sell it if Tampa Bay Lightning (a.k.a. Stamkos and friends) win the Cup!
I'm still betting my 991 RS doesn't make it past 2015. I can't get over a PDK GT3; I don't want my wife to drive it. I almost gave up on cars and went MP4-12C when only PDK 991 GT3s were announced.
7.2 GT3 is the right car to buy and drive to the ground. I want to do a SW 4.0 conversion after I blow up the engine. I should ask you to help me with that at Sebring next time!
It was only you and Clarke doing justice for the 7.2 non-RS.
I'm still betting my 991 RS doesn't make it past 2015. I can't get over a PDK GT3; I don't want my wife to drive it. I almost gave up on cars and went MP4-12C when only PDK 991 GT3s were announced.
7.2 GT3 is the right car to buy and drive to the ground. I want to do a SW 4.0 conversion after I blow up the engine. I should ask you to help me with that at Sebring next time!
It was only you and Clarke doing justice for the 7.2 non-RS.
I'm right there with you. Will enjoy the car for awhile but eventually id do a 4.0 conversion. Only other thing other than that is change gear ratios and 4.0 clutch/fw
05-09-2015, 10:37 AM
#52
Rennlist Member
I was faced with the exact same scenario. Get a 991 GT3 or buy my old 997.2 GT3 back.
Did tons of research, rode and drove some 991 GT3's. Initial thought was the car felt really big sitting inside, and on the track, although fast as *****, it was lacking any passion. Just point, press gas, turn wheel. Really felt like Porsches version of a Nissan GT-R. But alas I found myself still willing to buy it. It looks badass, the new and greatest, and like I mentioned, fast as ****. But then....
I met my friend for coffee who has a white 997.2 GT3. We were bored, so I asked if I could drive it since it had been a while since I drove my old car. Turned the key and the mezger came alive along with the rattles, burbles and vibrations the 997's are known for. I had the biggest smile on my face. No words could describe it. It just felt right. Perfect sized car, full of character, and a refusal to be obsolete. We are very blessed to have the ability to own and drive these cars.
If you have or get a chance to purchase one. Do it. It's a dead mans car....
Did tons of research, rode and drove some 991 GT3's. Initial thought was the car felt really big sitting inside, and on the track, although fast as *****, it was lacking any passion. Just point, press gas, turn wheel. Really felt like Porsches version of a Nissan GT-R. But alas I found myself still willing to buy it. It looks badass, the new and greatest, and like I mentioned, fast as ****. But then....
I met my friend for coffee who has a white 997.2 GT3. We were bored, so I asked if I could drive it since it had been a while since I drove my old car. Turned the key and the mezger came alive along with the rattles, burbles and vibrations the 997's are known for. I had the biggest smile on my face. No words could describe it. It just felt right. Perfect sized car, full of character, and a refusal to be obsolete. We are very blessed to have the ability to own and drive these cars.
If you have or get a chance to purchase one. Do it. It's a dead mans car....
05-09-2015, 11:54 AM
#53
I'd agree that if you take a good driver, the 991 will be quite a bit faster, as fast as an RS (which has a big aero advantage) or even a little faster.
05-10-2015, 12:43 AM
#54
Rennlist Member
Glad I'm back also. Miss the 997 section of rennlist. I really lucked out. If I couldn't buy back my original car, not sure I would have gotten a 997.2 GT3. Can't believe the prices
05-10-2015, 10:09 AM
#55
Rennlist Member
What's pricing like there now??? Did a search online here and could not find a single 997.2 for sale in Oz... We only got a handful of 991 gt3s and there were several for sale already...
To the OP, it's a very emotive decision and one that realistically you'll have to go with the heart on. Only you can decide how much more you're willing to pay above the value of your car. I for example would think twice before accepting a straight swap because I value the manual, mezger and proven platform of the 997.2 over the new car.
Since you love what you have and don't track I would stay with your own car considering it's holding it's value... You guys in the US are in a unique position...
If you're ready for a change then the 991 would be a magic car too and definitely a great drive for all the reasons already stated. It may carry a bit of a stigma with the engine troubles they had early on but considering you don't track, I doubt you'd have any reliability issues
To the OP, it's a very emotive decision and one that realistically you'll have to go with the heart on. Only you can decide how much more you're willing to pay above the value of your car. I for example would think twice before accepting a straight swap because I value the manual, mezger and proven platform of the 997.2 over the new car.
Since you love what you have and don't track I would stay with your own car considering it's holding it's value... You guys in the US are in a unique position...
If you're ready for a change then the 991 would be a magic car too and definitely a great drive for all the reasons already stated. It may carry a bit of a stigma with the engine troubles they had early on but considering you don't track, I doubt you'd have any reliability issues
05-10-2015, 05:34 PM
#57
05-10-2015, 06:25 PM
#58
I've had 3 first hand experiences with this. The 991 can make a driver who can't shift, let alone heal toe, who does not know when to brake, know how to manage throttle in corner, and where to be in the corner at any specific time, and who has binary inputs, drive light years faster and feel like a hero relative to other traffic. All three instances, the owners got them because they wanted to go faster, and were among the worst listening students I've had (yellow students in PCA). My point is that you can drive a 991 waaaay faster with much less skill than a 997. Not a bad thing, but it is a fact.
I'd agree that if you take a good driver, the 991 will be quite a bit faster, as fast as an RS (which has a big aero advantage) or even a little faster.
I'd agree that if you take a good driver, the 991 will be quite a bit faster, as fast as an RS (which has a big aero advantage) or even a little faster.
I have seen what you have stated in my local track experience. That even with guys who have had a Sharky 3.9 who have gone on to purchase a 991 GT3.
No worries, my little" know nothing gets no respect" Champion Motorsport build that can't compare to other builds" can hang and deflate the 991GT3. I've done it locally.
All you members, did I say ALL, yes I said ALL, have given ZERO respect to the Champion Motorsport build. Honestly NO WORRIES
i love being the underdog. As the saying goes ... it's not how big the dog is in the fight BUT how big the fight in the dog IS!!!!!!!!!You want to talk about fight ... well I have just a little bit of experience in that, thanks US Army and US Army Rangers.
Once again I am just an impaired driver trying to lve a dream.
Ranger
I look forward to a build reunion. My little POS "Rodney Dangerfield gets no respect" build may have something to say about that ... but hey what do I know. I'm just an impaired driver trying to live a dream.
05-10-2015, 06:29 PM
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05-10-2015, 06:49 PM
#60
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ranger, it's not ALL members.
I dot. recall I disrespected champions build. they are quite a well known shop
I usually do not comment on BBI sharkwerks champion gig cantrell or anyone other builds bc I don't have enough (or any miles) n those builds. if I were to make a comment, it's always stock engine. (maybe with a tune here and here) but never full builds. simply bc I do not know them and cannot provide anything intelligent to contribute. that doesn't mean I disrespect champion or any other builders. however of any such builder is willing to send a car to me for a year of track testing, I will then have volumes to say about hem. I'm a great beta tester... all my bike and car mechanics know. I can break just about anything and everything without even trying. if it passes my test it is BULLET PROOF.
case in point, I cracked my second cipo frame, which I was told no one in the world has had that happen lol. I'm not that heavy and way below the wt limit of hat frame. so send stuff over, I'll test it.
I dot. recall I disrespected champions build. they are quite a well known shop
I usually do not comment on BBI sharkwerks champion gig cantrell or anyone other builds bc I don't have enough (or any miles) n those builds. if I were to make a comment, it's always stock engine. (maybe with a tune here and here) but never full builds. simply bc I do not know them and cannot provide anything intelligent to contribute. that doesn't mean I disrespect champion or any other builders. however of any such builder is willing to send a car to me for a year of track testing, I will then have volumes to say about hem. I'm a great beta tester... all my bike and car mechanics know. I can break just about anything and everything without even trying. if it passes my test it is BULLET PROOF.
case in point, I cracked my second cipo frame, which I was told no one in the world has had that happen lol. I'm not that heavy and way below the wt limit of hat frame. so send stuff over, I'll test it.