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I'm an old fart with a 997tt, have had this car for over 6 years, and as far as 997tt's go, it's a keeper. Lower mileage, very loaded, all updates/modifications for long term running and tasteful mods. My problem is I just don't drive it. I don't enjoy driving a stick as much as I did when I was younger with better knees and a narrower rear end.
How have some of you decided to keep or part with cars in the past? I'm considering a 991.1TT, as it's a little bigger, a bit faster, and has PDK.
My 997tt is a 37k mile 2007 white over natural grey, PCCB, Active Sport Seats, sport differential, HRE center lock wheels and loaded with lots of leather and body colored painted bits. If I were to own a 997tt, this is still my favorite. If kept, I'd consider swapping to the 997.2 rear bumper/lights and getting a europipe exhaust. The only downside of the car is it was scratched in a parking lot and has an insurance claim before I got it. The pricing on them seems all over the place, so I have no idea what it's worth ($75-80k?)
Just like the 997 was incrementally better than the 996, I think the 991 is incrementally better than the 997, and maybe a car I'd drive more. Thoughts?
Same boat. Mine is up on a rack. 17K and stick. I enjoy my Ferrari more and Bentley. I pulled it down and even on tinder I have to jump it after long sits. It has power, just not enough to crank. Probably going to put it on the market when I have time. I have also found as I get older I really don't want a ton of cars - its a hassle and would rather travel.
Same boat. Mine is up on a rack. 17K and stick. I enjoy my Ferrari more and Bentley. I pulled it down and even on tinder I have to jump it after long sits. It has power, just not enough to crank. Probably going to put it on the market when I have time. I have also found as I get older I really don't want a ton of cars - its a hassle and would rather travel.
Why did you get rid of your 991 TT-S? That's what I'm leaning towards.
The 991 turbo is a larger margin better than the 996 to 997 jump. I would say the jump is like going from air cooled to 996. The 991 Carrera s I drove was better. There are very few cars I’ve owned that aren’t better than their prior models. I like the 997 much more than the 996, and definitely the 991 more than the 997.
Is it mostly the manual vs. PDK issue that keeps you from wanting to drive the 997? The reason I ask is that while the 991 series is bigger, it isn't a game changer in terms of comfort. I had a 991 Targa GTS and I loved it. Now having a 997.2 TTS, I know the car is smaller...but it doesn't really feel much smaller to me as the driver. Comfort level is about the same, entry and exit are about the same, etc. My Targa was nice because I could drop the top to make it easier to get in and out of but a coupe with adaptive sport seats is going to feel very similar between a 997 and 991.
I love my PDK and mostly because I'm a lazy bastard that is sick of manually shifting gears in and around Seattle. I feel plenty connected to my TTS. I picked the 997.2 over the 991 because I could get what I wanted for less money and hopefully lose less on depreciation but time will tell.
I do agree about the auto vs manual. The small displacement manual transmission turbo car requires much more finesse than my v8 larger displacement cars. My wife drives the turbo clutch car much better than I do.
I don’t mind driving my cts-v or Datsun 240z ls1 around as much as the 996 or 997 turbo I have. More torque seems to be less effort.
997TT is a sports car, not a GT. Add stick shift and it’s much more involving and challenging to drive than a PDK I still need to work on my heel and toe technique!
I had this dilemma from a different angle. Solved it with a Panamera for every day XXL 911 driving. Now I’m happy to use my 997 TT for short, occasional, spirited weekend drives. The big GT is the one for longer journeys. I would miss my 911 desperately if I sold it, even though I don’t do many miles in it. Garage tinkering and a scissor lift adds an extra level of fun and connection with the cars.
.....How have some of you decided to keep or part with cars in the past?.....
Got rid of a daily driven E39 M5 because LA traffic got to be too much for manual.
Got rid of a supercharged Elise because everyone else in family hated it (mostly seats and ingress/egress).
So maybe I too am getting a little old.
Originally Posted by CincyScott
....Just like the 997 was incrementally better than the 996, I think the 991 is incrementally better than the 997, and maybe a car I'd drive more. Thoughts?
I would say it was more than an incremental improvement. Not much of a debate as there is in discussing 997 vs 991.
Originally Posted by CincyScott
....I'm considering a 991.1TT, as it's a little bigger, a bit faster, and has PDK....
go a step further in that direction and test drive a 992.
Originally Posted by Misplacedyankee
.......I have also found as I get older I really don't want a ton of cars - its a hassle and would rather travel.
I'm with you on that. Went out of my way to find "the one".....997 GT2 with 18 ways (so it can actually be driven comfortably for more than 30 minutes at a time and people don't mind getting in and out of it) and with 5-lugs (so I and other normal people can actually work on it). A keeper!
997TT is a sports car, not a GT. Add stick shift and it’s much more involving and challenging to drive than a PDK I still need to work on my heel and toe technique!
I had this dilemma from a different angle. Solved it with a Panamera for every day XXL 911 driving. Now I’m happy to use my 997 TT for short, occasional, spirited weekend drives. The big GT is the one for longer journeys. I would miss my 911 desperately if I sold it, even though I don’t do many miles in it. Garage tinkering and a scissor lift adds an extra level of fun and connection with the cars.
I have a highly modified S7 that I love to drive. 600 hp and 600 ft lb of torque is the best for a highway cruiser. I looked at a Panamera turbo, but decided to just invest in my S7 and save the $60k.
Originally Posted by mchrono
Got rid of a daily driven E39 M5 because LA traffic got to be too much for manual.
Got rid of a supercharged Elise because everyone else in family hated it (mostly seats and ingress/egress).
So maybe I too am getting a little old.
I would say it was more than an incremental improvement. Not much of a debate as there is in discussing 997 vs 991.
go a step further in that direction and test drive a 992.
I can't/won't afford a 992, but I'm sure I'd love it. My neighbor has a 992 Targa and it's a blast. The 991 is more in my wheelhouse financially right now.
Originally Posted by cdk4219
I do agree about the auto vs manual. The small displacement manual transmission turbo car requires much more finesse than my v8 larger displacement cars. My wife drives the turbo clutch car much better than I do.
I don’t mind driving my cts-v or Datsun 240z ls1 around as much as the 996 or 997 turbo I have. More torque seems to be less effort.
The 997tt is a blast to drive... when you're driving it aggressive. It has just seemed like a lot of work to drive it hard the last few years that I'm not sure I want. It's still a stunningly beautiful car though.
Yes, what about a 997.2 Turbo S? I got sick of shifting in Washington DC traffic (for 32 years) and got my 997.2 Turbo S 5 years ago and couldn't be happier. It could easily be my last 911. I can imagine keeping it till I die. I just turned 59 so it could be soon ;o).
I went through this thought process a few years ago. It’s a difficult decision. I loved my 997 TT, but I decided to take the plunge and buy a 991 TTS. It’s my favorite 911, and I’ve loved every minute of it. No regrets.
I’d test drive it over a weekend and see if you love it.
In the midst of coming to terms with the fact this will be the last summer I own mine. Road trip planned and new tyres soon - hopefully use them up in the next couple of month
When I buy another sports car the 997 is top
of the list, but will likely PDK next time around.
Looks like 4 or 5 .1 sticks are about to hit the block...better hit the button and beat the price drop! (I bet they all are coupes? At least with a cab... you have the open air driving experience to enjoy when boredom sets in)
sounds like all of you should go and drive a Taycan 4S.... that might recharge your excitement!! I’m actually being serious... the car is sooo different than anything else out there that it might be one of the few cars that would really get me excited (and a new GT500). Check the Chris Harris and Stig video just out.
02-10-2020, 04:05 PM
Pondering my 997tt's future
I still need to work on my heel and toe technique!
