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997 Turbo is on the verge of becoming a collectable.
Based on the price analysis from this YouTuber, 997.2 Turbo S value increased by 1% from the last year.
$30,000 premium for the manual 997.1 turbo over auto 997.1 turbo
997.1 Turbo price decreased by 3.5% ~ 3.9% from the last year
check out this video. More detailed stats are there. Comment your opinion if you agree or disagree.
Personally, I think age is the only indicator of when a 911 becomes collectable. Every 911 becomes collectable with enough of a passage of time from when production ends. And cars beyond a regular Carrera seem to have a shorter time to collectability. Every person who owns a 911 can tell you what makes their era of choice special and unique. And that's what's interesting about 911s---they're so customizable within the technology of a given era.
" I walked into the dealership and asked the mechanic about the 911 Turbo. I asked, “Have you seen anything about this car I need to worry about?” He said, “This car is bulletproof. Just change the oil. That’s all you have to do.” When I told the salesman that I wanted the 911 Turbo, he said, “Most of my clients are repeat customers and they keep trading up to the Turbo. But not you.” I was going straight for the top. Now nearly 21 years later, this car is still my daily driver. It has over 700,000 miles..."
Until folks get into the big repairs and then sell at lower prices to avoid the big maintenance bills.
More likely just with owners who are reaching above their comfort zone (knowingly, or not) and have to resort to financing to buy these cars. I know some may finance despite having the means for a variety of reasons; I'm talking about the punters who couldn't stroke a check to make an $80-130k purchase if their life depended on it. My head spins when I read about another yin-yang attempting to daily drive their financed TT (or similar car), and think it's going to deliver everyday usability like their old 4Runner did. They are special cars that remain special by taking great care of them, and using them for their intended purpose; high-performance driving. I re-commission my car every year with a full service at my preferred indy and my standing instructions are find everything that needs to be done and do it. If you're not in a position to do that with any thoroughbred car such as this, you are going to be in for a big hurt sooner or later.
" I walked into the dealership and asked the mechanic about the 911 Turbo. I asked, “Have you seen anything about this car I need to worry about?” He said, “This car is bulletproof. Just change the oil. That’s all you have to do.” When I told the salesman that I wanted the 911 Turbo, he said, “Most of my clients are repeat customers and they keep trading up to the Turbo. But not you.” I was going straight for the top. Now nearly 21 years later, this car is still my daily driver. It has over 700,000 miles..."
996tt > 997tt from the servicing standpoint in my experience. The cheapening out on hardware/complexity of the 997tt's VGT's throws a good wrench into the works. My 997tt has been sitting on a lift since 2021 with 50k miles after one of the VGT's seized up. Finding a set of rebuildable turbos took almost 2 years. Currently awaiting the return of them from Kevin.
Originally Posted by Kevin8tor
More likely just with owners who are reaching above their comfort zone (knowingly, or not) and have to resort to financing to buy these cars. I know some may finance despite having the means for a variety of reasons; I'm talking about the punters who couldn't stroke a check to make an $80-130k purchase if their life depended on it. My head spins when I read about another yin-yang attempting to daily drive their financed TT (or similar car), and think it's going to deliver everyday usability like their old 4Runner did. They are special cars that remain special by taking great care of them, and using them for their intended purpose; high-performance driving. I re-commission my car every year with a full service at my preferred indy and my standing instructions are find everything that needs to be done and do it. If you're not in a position to do that with any thoroughbred car such as this, you are going to be in for a big hurt sooner or later.
Agreed, this is where the prices most likely start to drop and level out because of the over spent on purchase then having to do some major service work that was not part of "planned normal maintenance", the entire social media/youtube influencer nonsense of "buy while you still can, drive while your investment appreciates" skewed the numbers and has seemed to fill many folks with FOMO. Keeping old turbos running for the long haul is not for the faint of heart.
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996tt > 997tt from the servicing standpoint in my experience. The cheapening out on hardware/complexity of the 997tt's VGT's throws a good wrench into the works. My 997tt has been sitting on a lift since 2021 with 50k miles after one of the VGT's seized up. Finding a set of rebuildable turbos took almost 2 years. Currently awaiting the return of them from Kevin.
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I'd say you just didn't try very hard then. I have 2 sets of vgt's right now. Got them on accident really, saw a cheap deal on a set so I bought them and rebuilt instead of rebuilding mine. Mine didn't need rebuilt but i wanted to upgrade so now I have rebuilt vgt's with 65's in them. Anyway, I spent about an hour looking for a good set, 2 years is just not trying.
More likely just with owners who are reaching above their comfort zone (knowingly, or not) and have to resort to financing to buy these cars. I know some may finance despite having the means for a variety of reasons; I'm talking about the punters who couldn't stroke a check to make an $80-130k purchase if their life depended on it. My head spins when I read about another yin-yang attempting to daily drive their financed TT (or similar car), and think it's going to deliver everyday usability like their old 4Runner did. They are special cars that remain special by taking great care of them, and using them for their intended purpose; high-performance driving. I re-commission my car every year with a full service at my preferred indy and my standing instructions are find everything that needs to be done and do it. If you're not in a position to do that with any thoroughbred car such as this, you are going to be in for a big hurt sooner or later.
This is how I feel about BMW and Mercedez drivers.
Im not a german car guy tbh, my 996 TT is my first european car but I did alot of research before buying it and can handle the maintenance myself. The parts sure are pricey though!
Until folks get into the big repairs and then sell at lower prices to avoid the big maintenance bills.
yeah.. not with the 997.2 they are proving to be very reliable without the "gotchas' of the previous cars... are those VGT issues with the .1 or .2 cars?? I haven't heard anything about those issues with the DFI engine.
yeah.. not with the 997.2 they are proving to be very reliable without the "gotchas' of the previous cars... are those VGT issues with the .1 or .2 cars?? I haven't heard anything about those issues with the DFI engine.
The 997.1 VGT's are problematic from seized up vanes, according to Kevin this is a common issue and usable cores are getting super hard to find. It took me buying 2 sets to get one good pair. Lots of folks crack the exhaust side housing, break off bolts for the oil/coolant lines that then have to be drilled/milled or EDM'ed out. The EGT threads are super easy to have the threads strip out of the housing even using heat/lubricant, this requires further machining/plugging/welding. Getting some of the coolant lines for the turbos has been hit or miss if they get messed up in the replacement for the .1 cars. EGT's the same.
Compared to my 996tt, the 997tt has a much higher cost of maintenance per mile in my experience.
04-08-2024, 06:53 AM
997 Turbo is on the verge of becoming a collectable.
