redlightrich

Hi All, I am almost ready to pull the trigger on a 2011 Turbo.

The cost is 107000 with 7300 miles. It is optioned the way I like, but I was wondering if there is any reason to avoid a 2010 or 2011. The car checks out well.

Now I realize many don't love the DFI motor as much as the Metzger.

I have noticed that 2011 and 2012 Turbo and Turbo S seem to be a tough sell. They seem to be priced from 102 to 130 but they seem to take long to sell.

This is a 6 speed car, which I see as a plus. I am not against the PDK. I would not buy a Tip, and I do feel the 6 speed is a good fit for me.

I think the "commercial grade" DFI comment hurt this cars motor in the public's opinion. Most people who buy a performance car want to also have the performance image. The Metzger had that.

Anyway my guess is a 2011 will continue to depreciate for many years, and will drop approx 12k a year in value from this point for at least the next 3 years. That is if the mileage stays low. I don't look at this as an investment, and the only reason I consider the depreciation is it gives me a real good idea as to the cars monthy cost of ownership.

Anyway, being fairly new to the Porsche world, I would like some input. If there are no specific " pitfalls" with a 2011 TT, I more than likely will jump.

Thank you all

Rich

tcsracing1

Yeah, folks love the 2007-2009 Mezger turbo. It has history, is rebuildable, tunable and last of the breed. If you are a GT3 guy then you are an instant sucker for the mezger...

The DFI is no slouch either. Although It is not as tuner friendly and it is suggested to replace them vs. rebuild them if broken, they appear to be powerful and bulletproof. (DFI Caymans ran the Daytona 24h with great success.)

The Mezger indeed takes to a performance tune fairly well but if you are not into that kinda thing then you will be happy with either car in stock trim.

The 07-09 is the last of the Mezger turbo, and the 2010-2013 is the last of the DFI manual tranny turbo.

DFI is faster out of the box.

Both have their place in the history books and resale should be good on both.

I am looking for a 07 turbo as it is the best value 911 turbo going today IMO.

Igooz

I cannot comment on the depreciation rate other than the fact that an '07 is four years further than the curve than an '11.

Any 6spd TT is probably a better long term investment than a Tip/PDK.

I would not let the DFI vs Mezger stop me from buying a nice, low mileage TT optioned properly that passes PPI.

parkerfe

The "good ole days" are always looked at fondly...its part of the human condition. The DFI engine is superior to the Mezger engine, just as whatever engine comes after the DFI engine will be superior to it. Auto technology continues to improve, especially with a company such as Porsche.

espanolie

i had an '07 tt and loved it. the lease was over and returned it. otherwise, i'd still have it. no major issues with anything, really. i performed routine maintenance and nothing more. highly recommend the car.

Doc V.

I'm intrigued by your synthesis of psychological explanation and engineering analysis. Could you provide some (i) confirmation for your claim that "the DFI engine is superior to the Mezger engine," and (ii) compelling, logical rationale for the dubious inference that the DFI motor's successor will be superior to it (you claim that B--the DFI engine--is superior to A--the Mezger engine--and therefore, necessarily, C--the DFI's successor--will be superior to B)?

Ibanezgod

haven't heard of any pitfalls of the DFI engine other than less tuning options. I love my 07TT. It's tuned and one badass machine

docfink

FWIW, I love my '10 with the short shift kit. The only thing that would improve the car in my eyes (actually EARS) would be an improved exhaust note, something that can easily be modded if desired.

I won't get into the plusses and minuses of either engine; suffice it to say that as someone who won't modify his engine, I love the DFI and have had no issues. The more modern car also has an improved suspension and better, updated electronics.

Go for the '11.

CincyScott

When the 996tt came out, people whined about the 993tt being the last of the air cooled and best of breed. They surmised that the 993tt's would hold their values better than the 996tt's ever could because of what they were made out of and from.

And you know what? They're right. The 993tt's are appreciating in value against any of the other water cooled cars. BUT, there are so damn many of the water cooled cars, I don't think any of them will ever be rare enough to be collectible in the next 25 years.

As the late great Bruce Anderson used to say (RIP), "buy the newest best Porsche you can afford" especially if you're going to drive it much.

garychios

997.2 is a superior car to the 997.1 in many ways. Don't listen to the Turbo guys with 997.1 cars saying all the BS. They just pissed the 997.2 is a better car. Porsche is not going to sell crap in this decade.

garychios

Also, what pittfalls with the 997.2 and tuning? my car made 500 wheel with stock exhaust and stage 1 tune. Nothing else! That is close to 600 crank. With exhaust and IC's it should make closer to 600 wheel. That is 720 crank. What 997.1 is doing that these days?

997xpress

Is the car CPO'd? The price seems a little high to me. I'd look for a Turbo S for that price.

My local dealer has a 2011 911 T with 5300 miles CPO for $100K asking. 6 speed and no CL's!

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ra34

Get a CPO and enjoy the drive. 2011 is fine.

Coincident

I have both. For me, the 997.2 is superior in every way. The Mezger is great, especially if you wish to modify. Otherwise, go 997.2. No reservations. A wonderful performer that is highly reliable.

Igooz

what he said! And remember...most of the buyers of these cars only keep them for around 2 years or really don't drive them. (Yes, RL addicts possibly excluded)

ra34, is that 71S a 936-9-3 paint code? I am restoring my 72S with that paint code...