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Very true. Off topic a little but best mod I have done, Europipe. My next mod will be the B16 damptronics. I want to have full adjustability on my suspension. Maybe with that system, the DSC will work better? The B8 seems fine but for a few more coins I get infinite adjustable height.
Again, for the price being pretty steep, I can understand folks not wanting to gamble. But I truly think it does work.
And yes, the Europipe is my favor mod too.
I just can't justify high dollar suspension mods right now. Would love some too.
Is the DSC already programed based on Sport, Sport Plus? Or do you have to guess where you want the settings/
There's only two suspension modes, the suspension modes are Normal and Sport.
DSC comes pre-programmed with its own active Normal and Sport mode. DSC is ready to plug & play.
The Sport PLUS button is for activating more aggressive engine/gearbox mapping. In factory form, by selecting Sport PLUS it also selects the Sport mode for the suspension as a bundle.
With DSC installed the bundle selection is eliminated. The DSC suspension mode selection becomes independent from Sport PLUS activation.
Hope this helps.
In factory form, by selecting Sport PLUS it also selects the Sport mode for the suspension as a bundle.
With DSC installed the bundle selection is eliminated. The DSC suspension mode selection becomes independent from Sport PLUS activation.
Hope this helps.
My DSC module doesn’t work that way. I wish it did. If I select Sport Plus I can only put the shocks into Normal once. If I go back to Sport shocks it won’t let me go back to Normal shocks —when I press the shock button the light stays on.
However in Sport I can put the shocks in and out of Sport with no problem.
My DSC module doesn’t work that way. If I select Sport Plus I can only put the shocks into Normal once. If I go back to Sport shocks it won’t let me go back to Normal shocks —when I press the shock button the light stays on.
However in Sport I can put the shocks in and out of Sport with no problem.
Mine is similar.
Normal or Sport mode = I can toggle the light on and off.
Sport Plus mode = light stays on and can't turn off.
BTW, anybody here ever feel like or done any testing to see of the DSC "HURT" their launches for drag racing???
I heard from someone recently that it caused someone worse launches (slower 60 ft.). I could kind of see it, due to the rear stiffening up and keeping weight transfer from happening as well (less Squat).
My DSC module doesn’t work that way. I wish it did. If I select Sport Plus I can only put the shocks into Normal once. If I go back to Sport shocks it won’t let me go back to Normal shocks —when I press the shock button the light stays on.
However in Sport I can put the shocks in and out of Sport with no problem.
Originally Posted by Big Swole
Mine is similar.
I'll look in to this. Over the years I've gotten a couple reports that on some 997.2 PDK cars(not all) the PLUS mode can make the mode switching erratic. Cars with PDK and PLUS mode have an extra factory control module in the CAN(Control Area Network) communication loop that can possibly block the switching signal in the network. Since not all cars do it there must be a difference of coding in the extra module that can block the switching signal when PLUS is activated.
To be frank, this hasn't been on top of our list because both DSC modes(Normal and Sport) have such a wide command range that either modes covers nearly the entire mechanical range of the PASM shocks. Will look into this.
Before I stirrup a mass internet panic, this is only on some 997.2 PDK cars with PLUS mode when PLUS mode is activated.
BTW, anybody here ever feel like or done any testing to see of the DSC "HURT" their launches for drag racing???
I heard from someone recently that it caused someone worse launches (slower 60 ft.). I could kind of see it, due to the rear stiffening up and keeping weight transfer from happening as well (less Squat).
Anyone????
One would have to do a back-to-back test with consistent conditions(same tires, tire pressure, track surface condition, burn out technique, etc...) to verify the hurt...
We don't do too much drag racing but we have done a lot of autocrossing with standing starts. DSC has been working well on the standing start launches.
One DSC user has a 800+whp 997TT , he reported that with DSC installed right out of the box controlling OEM PASM shocks has eliminated all the wheel hop he was experiencing.
For highly modified engines and for avid drag racers the DSC can be tuned to have softer rear compression in the sector of the g-table shown below.
The area circled in Red is vertical g-force from launching(above 0.6g). The rear damping command is shown at 95%. For the avid drag racer wanting to improve 60-foot, the damping commands can be reduced to half that value. Remember guys, DSC is tune-able.
And may be I can convince the upper level management to create and offer an optional LNC(Launch Control) that soften the rear under 20mph for launching...
Normal or Sport mode = I can toggle the light on and off.
Sport Plus mode = light stays on and can't turn off.
BTW, anybody here ever feel like or done any testing to see of the DSC "HURT" their launches for drag racing???
I heard from someone recently that it caused someone worse launches (slower 60 ft.). I could kind of see it, due to the rear stiffening up and keeping weight transfer from happening as well (less Squat).
Anyone????
make sure the car doesn't have the bright lights switched on as this will cause the system to no allow you to turn off the "sport".
Thanks Tom!! I was simply wondering if it could possibly hurt or help the launch. Either is fine. Not like I do it that often and it'd be easy to switch it out for a drag racing day if need be.
Originally Posted by cyclrder
make sure the car doesn't have the bright lights switched on as this will cause the system to no allow you to turn off the "sport".
I'll look in to this. Over the years I've gotten a couple reports that on some 997.2 PDK cars(not all) the PLUS mode can make the mode switching erratic. Cars with PDK and PLUS mode have an extra factory control module in the CAN(Control Area Network) communication loop that can possibly block the switching signal in the network. Since not all cars do it there must be a difference of coding in the extra module that can block the switching signal when PLUS is activated.
To be frank, this hasn't been on top of our list because both DSC modes(Normal and Sport) have such a wide command range that either modes covers nearly the entire mechanical range of the PASM shocks. Will look into this.
That’s unfortunate. I really want it to work as advertised as I autocross competitively and would like to easily switch between two files I’ve created without plugging in a laptop between runs. If it helps my car was built in 11/2010.
One would have to do a back-to-back test with consistent conditions(same tires, tire pressure, track surface condition, burn out technique, etc...) to verify the hurt...
We don't do too much drag racing but we have done a lot of autocrossing with standing starts. DSC has been working well on the standing start launches.
One DSC user has a 800+whp 997TT , he reported that with DSC installed right out of the box controlling OEM PASM shocks has eliminated all the wheel hop he was experiencing.
For highly modified engines and for avid drag racers the DSC can be tuned to have softer rear compression in the sector of the g-table shown below.
The area circled in Red is vertical g-force from launching(above 0.6g). The rear damping command is shown at 95%. For the avid drag racer wanting to improve 60-foot, the damping commands can be reduced to half that value. Remember guys, DSC is tune-able.
And may be I can convince the upper level management to create and offer an optional LNC(Launch Control) that soften the rear under 20mph for launching...
I do fair amount of AX with drag race like starts. I haven't noticed any degradation in rear traction when I drop the hammer - drag race like starts. I like idea of a map that assists with softening up setting under say 15-20 miles per hour. Now one thing I do notice is a little more power induced oversteer out of some slower turns compared to OEM controller but that may be more due to me using slightly narrower 295 tire compared to 305 OEM size in rear as I can only source 295 rear tire in RE71 R. I changed tires and DCS controller at same time. I didnt do well controlled observation. However across the board car handles better and my autocross times have improved since installing DCS controller last month. One thing I do notice when street driving is that DSC unit freaks out over slow speed bumps - nothing terrible but seems like it is doing something to rebound.
I do fair amount of AX with drag race like starts. I haven't noticed any degradation in rear traction when I drop the hammer - drag race like starts. I like idea of a map that assists with softening up setting under say 15-20 miles per hour. Now one thing I do notice is a little more power induced oversteer out of some slower turns compared to OEM controller but that may be more due to me using slightly narrower 295 tire compared to 305 OEM size in rear as I can only source 295 rear tire in RE71 R. I changed tires and DCS controller at same time. I didnt do well controlled observation. However across the board car handles better and my autocross times have improved since installing DCS controller last month.
Thanks for your feedback. 10mm rear tire width often make a noticeable difference in grip.
Originally Posted by Grantsfo
One thing I do notice when street driving is that DSC unit freaks out over slow speed bumps - nothing terrible but seems like it is doing something to rebound.
What are the G Comfort Parameter settings?
Changing the G Comfort Parameter settings(Default Rate or Sensitivity or G Rate Max) by a few whole numbers can make it feel better for you.
Thanks for your feedback. 10mm rear tire width often make a noticeable difference in grip.
What are the G Comfort Parameter settings?
Changing the G Comfort Parameter settings(Default Rate or Sensitivity or G Rate Max) by a few whole numbers can make it feel better for you.
I haven't noodled around with settings. Just map you included so far. It wont be used with stock dampers much longer as I have Tractive coilovers on order with you! Cant wait to get those on the car to really see potential of your controller.
05-01-2019, 12:15 PM
