if i was porsche i would be embarrassed...
08-20-2016, 12:39 PM
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My 2012 TT has a combo of CF and Alcantara. The console, door ledges and Cup holder cover are CF and the center console armrest cover and steering wheel are Alcantara. The only CF issue I've had was when a Porsche mechanic working on the top put a knee on it, with the weight of his body, while installing the new top and cracked it. My car was under original warranty so Porsche replaced it - no questions asked.
08-21-2016, 08:38 AM
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...I realized then I would never, ever get a car with any carbon fiber interior parts due to this. The last think I'd want to do is rest my arms on a sticky feeling, plastic interior body part. No thanks.... leather or a nice sturdy vinyl feels 10X better resting against my skin.
08-21-2016, 06:08 PM
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08-22-2016, 01:23 AM
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Not sure if they changed it, but there's nowhere on mine where you rest your body parts on carbon. Even the steering wheel has leather for where you normally grip it (okay, it is possible to hold carbon on the wheel, but not during normal driving). Door arm rest, centre console top etc. are all leather.
08-22-2016, 06:34 AM
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When I ordered my TT I had perhaps - subject to personal taste and interpretation - more money than taste.
I have had the drivers side CF that faces up to the windshield delam 5 times. 3 paid by Porsche under original warranty and parts warranty, and 2 by me.
You can put the sun protector on every time you park, as I do. But the other 93K miles I have driven it, have to take it off.
I have come to look on this as a maintenance item, but yes, Porsche should be very ashamed. It's not the company it used to be, especially now that they have to help pay for VW's farkups.
And $8K for total water system rebuild should not happen either.
I have had the drivers side CF that faces up to the windshield delam 5 times. 3 paid by Porsche under original warranty and parts warranty, and 2 by me.
You can put the sun protector on every time you park, as I do. But the other 93K miles I have driven it, have to take it off.
I have come to look on this as a maintenance item, but yes, Porsche should be very ashamed. It's not the company it used to be, especially now that they have to help pay for VW's farkups.
And $8K for total water system rebuild should not happen either.
08-24-2016, 07:47 PM
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Agree Porsche CF is total crap. Had almost all mine replaced with CPO. Now they are failing again. Like the other posters my car is never in the sun. BMW CF is far superior to Porsche. Little by little I will replace the CF parts with leather.
08-26-2016, 06:15 PM
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I don't think my CF looks cheap. I have it on the doors and the E brake and shift ****. It looks tasteful against a black interior and it's just accents. If I ordered a car new I would not consider it. Not based on looks but based on durability. And of course it's just a marketing tool. I know people with BMW's and Merc's that have lots of CF in their interiors. Their's have never failed. AS we all agree here Porsche failed miserably with their CF. As with the Hydraulics for the rear spoiler. $3500 for parts to repair the wing is pure rape. I love my car but I curse Porsche frequently as well.
08-26-2016, 06:17 PM
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My 2012 TT has a combo of CF and Alcantara. The console, door ledges and Cup holder cover are CF and the center console armrest cover and steering wheel are Alcantara. The only CF issue I've had was when a Porsche mechanic working on the top put a knee on it, with the weight of his body, while installing the new top and cracked it. My car was under original warranty so Porsche replaced it - no questions asked.
11-09-2016, 03:34 PM
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"Porsche should be embarrassed".
After 46 Porsches over 43 years I feel compelled to report my Skoda has no carbon fibre, no IMS bearing, no cam chain, no timing belt, no water pump, no radiator, no frim fram and no doodle whopper, issues. Tuneups are at 200,000 intervals and cost $100. All repairs are in multiples of $60 whereas all my Porsche repairs are in multiples of $600.
My Suzuki Samarai is even better than the Skoda. The Skoda takes me all the same places the Porsches do and the Samarai takes me to places the Porsches can't dream of. Not at the same speed mind you but interestingly the Samarai gets more thumbs up and the Skoda more questions than most of the Porsches.
And yes, IMS, cam chains and timing belts, ad infinitum, should be embarrassing to Porsche.
Where is Ferdinand Piech (the top automotive genius of all time) when quality control and subcontract components are reviewed?
Hooked on Porsche but often wonder why.
After 46 Porsches over 43 years I feel compelled to report my Skoda has no carbon fibre, no IMS bearing, no cam chain, no timing belt, no water pump, no radiator, no frim fram and no doodle whopper, issues. Tuneups are at 200,000 intervals and cost $100. All repairs are in multiples of $60 whereas all my Porsche repairs are in multiples of $600.
My Suzuki Samarai is even better than the Skoda. The Skoda takes me all the same places the Porsches do and the Samarai takes me to places the Porsches can't dream of. Not at the same speed mind you but interestingly the Samarai gets more thumbs up and the Skoda more questions than most of the Porsches.
And yes, IMS, cam chains and timing belts, ad infinitum, should be embarrassing to Porsche.
Where is Ferdinand Piech (the top automotive genius of all time) when quality control and subcontract components are reviewed?
Hooked on Porsche but often wonder why.