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02-16-2019, 05:28 PM
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The best is the Porsche PIWIS - $15,000/year rental from Porsche. It's the best available and will do the most things.
Alternatives are Durametric ($300 for 3 VIN#'s), iCarScan ($200 for unlimited VIN#'s and 5 different manufacturers.) Neither is the equal of the PIWIS, but they are a bit more affordable.
Alternatives are Durametric ($300 for 3 VIN#'s), iCarScan ($200 for unlimited VIN#'s and 5 different manufacturers.) Neither is the equal of the PIWIS, but they are a bit more affordable.
02-16-2019, 05:49 PM
#3
Burning Brakes
This is at least as much of a question as a suggestion ...
I've noticed on eBay (here in the US) where people are renting the professional (unlimited VINs) version of Durametric for $30-$50 for 7 days. It seems like it might be a worthwhile experiment. Has anyone here done that sort of a rental?
I've noticed on eBay (here in the US) where people are renting the professional (unlimited VINs) version of Durametric for $30-$50 for 7 days. It seems like it might be a worthwhile experiment. Has anyone here done that sort of a rental?
02-18-2019, 12:06 PM
#4
The best is the Porsche PIWIS - $15,000/year rental from Porsche. It's the best available and will do the most things.
Alternatives are Durametric ($300 for 3 VIN#'s), iCarScan ($200 for unlimited VIN#'s and 5 different manufacturers.) Neither is the equal of the PIWIS, but they are a bit more affordable.
Alternatives are Durametric ($300 for 3 VIN#'s), iCarScan ($200 for unlimited VIN#'s and 5 different manufacturers.) Neither is the equal of the PIWIS, but they are a bit more affordable.
02-18-2019, 12:15 PM
#5
Three Wheelin'
I have the Foxwell nt520 and it works quite well on my 955 Cayenne and it works even better on my 997.1 911
02-18-2019, 07:00 PM
#6
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I have Durametric and iCarScan X431. As best I can tell, the feature set is the same on both for my Porsches -- so my preference is for the iCarScan X431 because i) it works on 4 other car marques of my choosing, ii) it's not locked to a limited set of VINs (as is the Durametric Enthusiast), iii) I prefer the phone interface versus having to wrestle a laptop out to my car, and iv) it's cheaper than the most basic Durametric. From what I can tell, I can even do some coding on the iCarScan (as you can on Durametric) -- but BEWARE, the coding features are not documented and not always super intuitive, so I've avoided them other than adjusting air suspension ride height. You can reset the service reminder, airbags, reset the transmission learning, etc.
Note that iCarScan is not perfect. While Durametric doesn't get great customer service reviews, the sellers of iCarScan are likely even more difficult to deal with, although I've not had any issues that have required support. iCarScan (actually the EZDiag App they use) will sometimes have trouble connecting over bluetooth, and requires me to re-launch the app. The interface is OK, but not amazing -- not that I thought Durametric was great -- they're actually pretty similar in that regard.
I also like using a cheap ELM327 OBD scanner with the Torque app for a few basic things like logging fuel trims and confirming OBD readiness. For very basic trouble shooting, the ELM327 scanners can be surprisingly helpful.
Note that iCarScan is not perfect. While Durametric doesn't get great customer service reviews, the sellers of iCarScan are likely even more difficult to deal with, although I've not had any issues that have required support. iCarScan (actually the EZDiag App they use) will sometimes have trouble connecting over bluetooth, and requires me to re-launch the app. The interface is OK, but not amazing -- not that I thought Durametric was great -- they're actually pretty similar in that regard.
I also like using a cheap ELM327 OBD scanner with the Torque app for a few basic things like logging fuel trims and confirming OBD readiness. For very basic trouble shooting, the ELM327 scanners can be surprisingly helpful.
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02-19-2019, 05:32 AM
#7
I have Durametric and iCarScan X431. As best I can tell, the feature set is the same on both for my Porsches -- so my preference is for the iCarScan X431 because i) it works on 4 other car marques of my choosing, ii) it's not locked to a limited set of VINs (as is the Durametric Enthusiast), iii) I prefer the phone interface versus having to wrestle a laptop out to my car, and iv) it's cheaper than the most basic Durametric. From what I can tell, I can even do some coding on the iCarScan (as you can on Durametric) -- but BEWARE, the coding features are not documented and not always super intuitive, so I've avoided them other than adjusting air suspension ride height. You can reset the service reminder, airbags, reset the transmission learning, etc.
Note that iCarScan is not perfect. While Durametric doesn't get great customer service reviews, the sellers of iCarScan are likely even more difficult to deal with, although I've not had any issues that have required support. iCarScan (actually the EZDiag App they use) will sometimes have trouble connecting over bluetooth, and requires me to re-launch the app. The interface is OK, but not amazing -- not that I thought Durametric was great -- they're actually pretty similar in that regard.
I also like using a cheap ELM327 OBD scanner with the Torque app for a few basic things like logging fuel trims and confirming OBD readiness. For very basic trouble shooting, the ELM327 scanners can be surprisingly helpful.
Note that iCarScan is not perfect. While Durametric doesn't get great customer service reviews, the sellers of iCarScan are likely even more difficult to deal with, although I've not had any issues that have required support. iCarScan (actually the EZDiag App they use) will sometimes have trouble connecting over bluetooth, and requires me to re-launch the app. The interface is OK, but not amazing -- not that I thought Durametric was great -- they're actually pretty similar in that regard.
I also like using a cheap ELM327 OBD scanner with the Torque app for a few basic things like logging fuel trims and confirming OBD readiness. For very basic trouble shooting, the ELM327 scanners can be surprisingly helpful.
It is just the information I need to decide which one I will buy.
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02-19-2019, 09:03 AM
#9
VCDS is only good on the 955, it is far less capable on the 957 as the 957 has newer style electronics that VCDS is not as compatible with.
02-19-2019, 11:32 AM
#12
For anyone curious, here's my scan of the 957 GTS (just modules, some info redacted) with stock VCDS. For example, it does not see the headlight ballasts (which I believe it is able to on a 955).
Chassis Type: 9P (XX - All Addresses)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 2A 2B 2C 2D 2E 2F 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 3A 3B 3C
3D 3E 3F 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 4A 4B 4C 4D 4E 4F 50
51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 5A 5B 5C 5D 5E 5F 60 61 62 63 64
65 66 67 68 69 6A 6B 6C 6D 6E 6F 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78
79 7A 7B 7C 7D 7E 7F 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 8A 8B 8C
8D 8E 8F 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 9A 9B 9C 9D 9E 9F A0
A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6 A7 A8 A9 AA AB AC AD AE AF B0 B1 B2 B3
B4 B5 B6 B7 B8 B9 BA BB BC BD BE BF C0 C1 C2 C3 C4 C5
C6 C7 C8 C9 CA CB CC CD CE CF D0 D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 D6 D7
D8 D9 DA DB DC DD DE DF E0 E1 E2 E3 E4 E5 E6 E7 E8 E9
EA EB EC ED EE EF F0 F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8 F9 FA FB
FC FD FE FF
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09D-927-750.lbl
Part No SW: 09D 927 750 FP HW: 09D 927 750 FP
Component: AL 750 6A 1154
Revision: 00H63000 Serial number:
Coding: 0045096
Shop #: WSC 128452 000 00000
VCID: 015C8D9E8D1157AF7D6-5184
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25E1.clb
Part No SW: 7L0 907 379 L HW: 7L0 907 379 L
Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1 0303
Revision: 00H53001
Coding: 0009094
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 42DE4292C8C78CB724C-8016
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
Part No SW: 3D0 909 139 C HW: 5WK 485 06
Component: 0B Kessy 6840
Revision: 68406620 Serial number: [redacted]
Coding: 0524449
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 290CF53E55B17FEF056-807C
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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No: 7L0 959 760
Component: Sitzverstellung 0701
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 77A8E346D385191F432-8022
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 7L6-907-040.clb
Part No: 7L5 907 040 CB
Component: Klima - SG R/L 4325
Coding: 0001030
Shop #: WSC 128452 000 00000
VCID: 71BCDD5EBDE1472F8D6-8024
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 7Lx-937-049-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7L5 937 049 AA HW: 7L5 937 049 AA
Component: J519 1800
Revision: -2004--- Serial number: --------------
Coding: F20000022B2A5C000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 7AAEFA72E09704773CC-802E
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 7L0-959-655.lbl
Part No SW: 7L0 959 655 HW: 7L0 959 655
Component: J234 3E VW8T 0250
Revision: 92012025 Serial number: [redacted]
Coding: 0013125
Shop #: WSC 02327 552 00000
VCID: 7AAEFA72E09704773CC-802E
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: None
Part No: 7L5 953 549 D
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 1701
Coding: 0001312
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3FD84B66BB35E15F4B2-806A
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: None
Part No: 7L5 907 530 B
Component: Gateway CAN/CAN E1 2500
Serial number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
VCID: 323E125278673C37B4C-8066
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 33: OBD-II Labels:
Part No HW: LVABÿ
VCID: 55F489CE2C090B0F71E-8000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 34: Level Control Labels: 7Lx-907-553-34.clb
Part No: 7L5 907 553 C
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3P1 3122
Coding: 0015551
Shop #: WSC 128452 000 00000
VCID: 382A207A9E1BD6678A8-806C
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No: 7L0 959 760
Component: Sitzverstellung 0703
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 77A8E346D385191F432-8022
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels:
VCID: 55F489CE2C090B0F71E-FFFE
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: None
Part No SW: 7L5 907 273 E HW: 7L5 907 273 E
Component: J0502 RDK 0007
Revision: 00005007 Serial number: [redacted]
Coding: AC12800000
Shop #: WSC 128452 000 00000
VCID: 392C257EA511CF6F756-806C
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 6D: Trunk Elect. Labels: 7L6-959-107.clb
Part No SW: 7L5 959 107 HW: 7L5 959 107
Component: J605 HECKKLAPPE 0101
Revision: --002--- Serial number: --------[redacted]
Coding: 2121210
Shop #: WSC 128452 000 00000
VCID: 77A8E346D385191F432-8022
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 76: Park Assist Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 7L5 919 283 B
Component: 00 Einparkhilfe 0201
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3A2E3A72A017C4777CC-806E
02-19-2019, 12:20 PM
#15
See here for info on how to see Engine module.
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...ds-how-to.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...ds-how-to.html