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I have too many vehicles as it is (meaning more than I can comfortably store, maintain, and insure)...so there is no having my cake and eating it too by having both!
4Runner = large aluminum boat w/ outboard (There is something rewarding about being able to just throw gear into it, let it sit out in the elements, and retain crazy good reliability with very little maintenance effort)
Cayenne GTS = v8 inboard wakeboat (It is going to be a lot more effort/money to keep nice and reliable, it will burn gas at an alarming rate if you use all the power, but every day you take it out you and your passengers will enjoy the extra comfort, safety, performance, and style of not riding around in a tin can with no soul)
You don't even have to choose your poison. Just get both.
Ha, I like the boat analogy.
Cayenne Turbo S a,nd true to the analogy, the 400HP, 23'wakeboard boat, not the aluminum runabout.
I pulled my Mastercraft 205 on a tandem trailer a bit with my Cayenne. It was much better at towing than my F150 King Ranch edition which has an 11500lb towing capacity. It was way more comfortable and much more power too! Here is a pic of the setup on the ferry to the Olympic Peninsula when I delivered it to the new owner last year.
Our CTT pulls the heavy wake boat like a champion as well. It is about the same as the 6.0 GMC. It does way, way better than the GMC when it suffers "reduced engine power" from a seemingly unsolvable electronic throttle body system issue that no indy mechanic or GM dealer seems to be able to solve.
I have too many vehicles as it is (meaning more than I can comfortably store, maintain, and insure)...so there is no having my cake and eating it too by having both!
I have said that before too. Just get more garages. When all your stuff is spread out between multiple locations it makes it much harder for your wife to take inventory of the toys!
I say all this tongue in cheek while having no less than 4 or 5 vehicles/toys I have been intending to thin from the herd for a couple years myself. Definitely ditch the 4Runner then.
Being a longtime Porsche owner/driver (since 2009) I have of course come to love and appreciate the merits of high performance Porsche cars. My signature should tell you that alone. Could some actual owners who made the switch chime in and tell me just how different the life is with a Cayenne (particularly a V8, GTS, or Turbo) when compared to something as pedestrian as a Toyota 4Runner? Thanks in advance for any feedback!
Thanks all!
Steve, you already know where this comment is going.
Several locals have recently gotten a Cayenne diesel and seem pleased. Ask some for their impressions. We have driven ours from the hot Chihuahuan desert up to the frozen Arctic Ocean these past eight years and 108,000 miles. Driven rally, both won our class in AutoX, and lots of multi week off-road trips. Last trip prior to COVID was a 5,120 mile (one way) rally up to Tuktoyaktuk, temps got down to -40F with 60mph winds and a blizzard. Otis never dropped off pace!
It will never drive like our RSA but we would not want it to. It will never be a rock climber or mud holer but neither of these interest us. It did very well driving ~200 miles in thick Jello Pudding mud, just ask Roger Jobs what it looked like prior to their courtesy wash!
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@RS-America why do I somehow get the idea that you may have nearly jeopardized the entire concept of 'courtesy wash' for all future customers by the way you told that story?
Went from an anemic 92 Range Rover to a 2004 CayenneS with air suspension for a winter beater. It was worth every Penny to not have to make plans to pass other vehicles on the highwayl!
Both the heater and a/c worked much better on the Cayenne as well.
Last edited by RKD in OKC; 08-22-2020 at 07:05 AM.
@RS-America why do I somehow get the idea that you may have nearly jeopardized the entire concept of 'courtesy wash' for all future customers by the way you told that story? Thanks for the great story...much appreciated!
I went from a manual 2002 Xterra to a Cayenne Turbo. I still miss the Xterra but I value my experience with the Cayenne. And that's what it is. A different experience. This might be the time in your life's history you rolled around in a Cayenne.
Went from an anemic 92 Range Rover to a 2004 CayenneS with air suspension for a winter beater. It was worth every Penny to not have to make plans to pass other vehicles on the highwayl!
Both the heater and a/c worked much better on the Cayenne as well.
Haha, I could not have said it any better. 'Making plans to pass' is definitely a low light of the current ownership experience on 2 lane roads!
If you go with a Turbo, not only don't you have to make plans to pass, but you can pass 3 or 4 cars or a couple tractor trailers in one shot!
^^^THIS^^^ Car and Driver clocked the 2009 CTTS at 4.0 seconds from 0-60. Pete has more HP than I and I can tell you that I am quite confident that mine with 600+HP and Torque confirms and probably beats the C+D number. It love to see the look on the face of the idiots who try to floor it to keep me from passing- it is simply priceless when I go by them with my fully loaded rig and dog, uphill, like they were standing still. There is simply nothing like it...
^^^THIS^^^ Car and Driver clocked the 2009 CTTS at 4.0 seconds from 0-60. Pete has more HP than I and I can tell you that I am quite confident that mine with 600+HP and Torque confirms and probably beats the C+D number. It love to see the look on the face of the idiots who try to floor it to keep me from passing- it is simply priceless when I go by them with my fully loaded rig and dog, uphill, like they were standing still. There is simply nothing like it...
I drove 5 hours home from TN yesterday mostly on interstate and some guy in a BMW convertible who didn't move out of the left lane for me took offense when I went to pass him on the right and sped up and up and up so I pulled back in behind him. After following him through a few lane changes staying on his bumper, he finally gave up at 107, moved over to the right and waved as I went by at about 120.
If you go with a Turbo, not only don't you have to make plans to pass, but you can pass 3 or 4 cars or a couple tractor trailers in one shot!
That sure sounds nice. I think Toyota engineers and test drivers would be fairly impressed with what I've been able to accomplish (with enough planning and room) with my meager 240 hp and 4000 pound vehicle. True story but when we came home from 4th of July earlier this year I completed a pass so hardcore that my '4 Low' light illuminated on my dashboard. I won't self incriminate about how fast I was able to go, but it was an effort for the ages and my little 4Runner had no business at that speed whatsoever. I was staring at the dash afterwards thinking WTF but after I turned the truck off and on again the light went off.
Not directly but I had a 2001 4runner lifted on 35s, snorkel, front and rear ARB air lockers and a 4.7:1 t-case that was built up to the nines.
My in between as a 4.8 X5 that transitioned me well into the Cay GTS. I will say that it is a hell of a lot more fun than the 4runner but the 4runner did things I will never let this Cayenne do.
08-17-2020, 04:08 PM
