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The ultimate humiliation. GTO vs CTT.

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Old 05-14-2008, 12:27 PM
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Oh, it's definitely been a while since anything interesting been happening on in this forum

There's only one way to resolve this: FSCCA, are you on the east coast?
Old 05-14-2008, 12:34 PM
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Even if he is, he'll have to get his mom's permission to race you in her car.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
OK. I guess. Still by your enjoyment. If the other party wasn't on it and let you pass him than you technically didn't smoke anything unless it was a joint. I have had my CTT side by side with my friends V10 TDI and I can assure you although fast it is not in the same league as a CTT.

In order to have smoked a CTT you would need to both be at WOT and one obviously out accelerates the other. That is not what your describing here. This is like the guy in the lowered Corolla with big canister exhaust that sits on the tail of my turbo at 80 mph and I move over to the right lane and let him by and he thinks he just dusted a Porsche. In fact I wouldn't even need to down shift and get on boost to leave it miles behind. BTW the TDI also tops out at 150 mph far below the top speed of a CTT. hate to burst your bubble but there is just no way a 7 second second Diesel is going to leave a 5 second Twin turbo 6-8 car lengths behind off the line unless the other party allowed it. Now if you are moving side by side at speed the torque of the TDI would help it to keep up but from experience I know the CTT is still faster.

Your comments suggest the same manhood issues you describe about inflicting on the GTO driver.

Yes, NYC area.
Old 05-14-2008, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by JRCTT
The Vdub never gets even 1 car length on it and it looks like it gets overtaken in the distance as expected...

Was the TT you smoked chipped as well? Let's keep it in perspective...
Yes I agree the V10 will get a jump on the CTT until the turbos spool up. This is only until about 30 mph after that there is no contest the CTT just leaves it in the dust. With a simple ecu flash the CTT can achieve 520 hp and 530 pound feet of torque, with other mods even more. The V10 only has 310 hp to start and although gobs of torque which is great for towing it is not faster unless you beat the turbo off the line to 30 mph.

BTW the You tube shows a poor launch on the CTT's part and I am sure PSM was still engaged which will slow the car incredibly.
Old 05-14-2008, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FSCCA
Your comments suggest the same manhood issues you describe about inflicting on the GTO driver.

Yes, NYC area.
Sorry I don't agree. I guess you are here to find a way to have fun with Porsche's. My suggestion is to buy one.
Old 05-14-2008, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
Sorry I don't agree. I guess you are here to find a way to have fun with Porsche's. My suggestion is to buy one.
Anthony, all in good fun. You have bought stuff from me before for your 3.6.

I own a '94 turbo S (flatnose-delete) and several other real Porsches not built in Leipzig.
Old 05-14-2008, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FSCCA
Anthony, all in good fun. You have bought stuff from me before for your 3.6.

I own a '94 turbo S (flatnose-delete) and several other real Porsches not built in Leipzig.
OK,

Refresh my memory. Where and when did I buy this from you and I don't recall seeing your turbo S flatnose delete which would be a memorable occurrence. You have my interest. Just busting my chops then huh.

It still doesn't make a stock V10 faster than a CTT.
Old 05-14-2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FSCCA
I own a '94 turbo S (flatnose-delete) and several other real Porsches not built in Leipzig.
Flatnose?
Old 05-14-2008, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ltc
Flatnose?
Flatnose delete other wise known as a package car.

I am still curious who this is. I recall several posts but not buying parts from him.
Old 05-14-2008, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
It still doesn't make a stock V10 faster than a CTT.
No question that over 60 mph the CTT has an advantage. But 553 or tuned to 670 ft-lbs off the line gives it an advantage. And that was my comment. Plus 23-25 mpg.
Old 05-14-2008, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FSCCA
No question that over 60 mph the CTT has an advantage. But 553 or tuned to 670 ft-lbs off the line gives it an advantage. And that was my comment. Plus 23-25 mpg.
Torque off the line but that is still a short race. My friends V10 is only quicker to about 30 mph and it is touch and go at best after that the CT just walks. I am sure chipped it helps up to 60 but the published numbers I have seen still only make it a 5.9 second SUV in chipped form (which is considerable improvement but at the sacrifice of economy under WOT) vs the CTT chipped is closer to 4.7 seconds. I think the best test would be from 60 -130 but that would not be responsible.

So you can't leave me hanging like this what did I buy from you? Was it the package of assorted parts? You can PM me if you like. I would love to see your package car since your close by I have only seen 3 for sale in the past 7 years and I am sure Mark would love to have info for his web site.

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Old 05-14-2008, 01:52 PM
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Oh please don't stop now -- It was just getting interesting -- And who the hell cares about MPG otherwise we'd all be in electric cars driving up nuclear power station building
Old 05-14-2008, 02:10 PM
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I actually did a little research. I was mistaken on the performance gains which seemed too good. The info I had read was for the W12 engine in error. Of several forums the max gain from 0-60 has been stated repeatedly as .4 seconds so 6.9 instead of 7.3 to 60 mph. Others claim only .2 seconds all say a maximum of 5 mph improvement on top end. The general consensus was a 20 to 30% reduction in fuel economy and I do admit I don't drive my P-cars for their economy. Sadly I admit I don't own an economic car and am guilty of being a gas guzzler.

I still think the V10 is a hell of an SUV and as a tow vehicle it would be outstanding. Although the CTT does a great job itself.
Old 05-15-2008, 08:45 AM
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ok can I join? the GTO is not that fast at all ... I backed Anthony on this one.
A lexus ISF will smoke that thing

Plus I dont see the Touareg winning that race on the video posted..

I've test driven a V10tdi , was just curious.. it can only be compared to the new GTS.. no CTT power at all



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