Does CPO mean CPO?
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Does CPO mean CPO?
I have been looking at a Cayenne that is identified on the Porsche site as "CPO." I took a test drive and wrapped my mind around the price on the assumption that the "CPO" designation meant that the car met certain standards and that the extended warranty was included in the asking price. Come to find out, at least at this dealer, the car is considered "pre CPO," meaning that it goes through the certification process, but does not include the coverage unless the customer wants to buy it for $2100. The salesman suggested that they do it this way to give the customer the flexibility to take the coverage or not. That is fair enough, but to all of you is a "CPO" car really "CPO" without the warranty, He called his car "pre-certified." The dealership did not identify it as a CPO car, so I do not think the onus falls on thier shoulders unless the "CPO" designation given to the car on the Porsche site mandates coverage with that designation.
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They are playing a game with you. A car is either CPO or not CPO. Porsche USA will certainly frown upon what they are doing - advertising a car (through Porsche's Website) as CPO and then telling you that it is pre-certified. I think they are trying to take you for an extra $2,100.
#3
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If it was publicly advertised(identified?) as CPO then they are guilty of fraudulent misrepresentation and I would not do business with any company that utilizes this type of business plan. As noted ^ I expect Porsche would NOT be happy to see one of its dealerships operating in this manner. Leaves a very bad taste in one's mouth.
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VW Dealers do the pre-certification game a lot. Thank God that the P!g is not a VW!
Actually, used car salesman often do lots of games. My favorite is the four box pricing sheet. I love all these mind-numbing games.
With that said, certification is worth the premium $ (say $2,000 - $2,500). Do your research and comparison shopping so that you know what you'd be willing to pay with or without certification. Being able to say no and walk away will ensure eventually you'll get the right deal. Also, remember certified used vehicles often carry financing specials if you are financing. I believe PCNA is offering 2.9% on certain MY P!gs.
Actually, used car salesman often do lots of games. My favorite is the four box pricing sheet. I love all these mind-numbing games.
With that said, certification is worth the premium $ (say $2,000 - $2,500). Do your research and comparison shopping so that you know what you'd be willing to pay with or without certification. Being able to say no and walk away will ensure eventually you'll get the right deal. Also, remember certified used vehicles often carry financing specials if you are financing. I believe PCNA is offering 2.9% on certain MY P!gs.
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I have been looking at a Cayenne that is identified on the Porsche site as "CPO." I took a test drive and wrapped my mind around the price on the assumption that the "CPO" designation meant that the car met certain standards and that the extended warranty was included in the asking price. Come to find out, at least at this dealer, the car is considered "pre CPO," meaning that it goes through the certification process, but does not include the coverage unless the customer wants to buy it for $2100. The salesman suggested that they do it this way to give the customer the flexibility to take the coverage or not. That is fair enough, but to all of you is a "CPO" car really "CPO" without the warranty, He called his car "pre-certified." The dealership did not identify it as a CPO car, so I do not think the onus falls on thier shoulders unless the "CPO" designation given to the car on the Porsche site mandates coverage with that designation.
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My local Lexus dealer will often show two prices on cars with only a few months of factory warranty remaining -- one is to take the car as it is with the remaining new car warranty -- the other is with the CPO warranty. But, they don't advertise the car as being a CPO.
The CPO cars go through a check list provided by Porsche -- they list minimums for tires and brakes etc. -- and make sure all the maintenance has been done.
Personally -- if they already did the internal inspection and the car passed -- and they are only charging you the actual cost of the warranty -- I don't see the problem with not having it in the program and call it pre-CPO. But the car should not have been advertised as being a CPO for a particular price when it was not a CPO car.
The CPO cars go through a check list provided by Porsche -- they list minimums for tires and brakes etc. -- and make sure all the maintenance has been done.
Personally -- if they already did the internal inspection and the car passed -- and they are only charging you the actual cost of the warranty -- I don't see the problem with not having it in the program and call it pre-CPO. But the car should not have been advertised as being a CPO for a particular price when it was not a CPO car.
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My local Lexus dealer will often show two prices on cars with only a few months of factory warranty remaining -- one is to take the car as it is with the remaining new car warranty -- the other is with the CPO warranty. But, they don't advertise the car as being a CPO.
The CPO cars go through a check list provided by Porsche -- they list minimums for tires and brakes etc. -- and make sure all the maintenance has been done.
Personally -- if they already did the internal inspection and the car passed -- and they are only charging you the actual cost of the warranty -- I don't see the problem with not having it in the program and call it pre-CPO. But the car should not have been advertised as being a CPO for a particular price when it was not a CPO car.
The CPO cars go through a check list provided by Porsche -- they list minimums for tires and brakes etc. -- and make sure all the maintenance has been done.
Personally -- if they already did the internal inspection and the car passed -- and they are only charging you the actual cost of the warranty -- I don't see the problem with not having it in the program and call it pre-CPO. But the car should not have been advertised as being a CPO for a particular price when it was not a CPO car.