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Old 12-27-2017, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
In an Panamera it's much improved. However, it still doesn't feel, well, spirited in any manner. I would think in the Cayenne it would feel similar. Interesting to see the difference between the PDK in the Panamera and the Slushbox in the Cayenne. I was actually unimpressed with the low speed behavior of the PDK.
There is a move away from Dual Clutch boxes in the Volkswagen group . I think the PDK will eventually only be offered with the sports car line.
Old 12-27-2017, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirill
Reviews say that 2019 base is adequate.
0-60 is 5.9 on base and 4.9 on S
https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/c...els/cayenne-s/

So 2019 base sounds like it is faster than 955 S
So for comparison what's the 0-60 on the current base V6?

Did some minor Google'ing and didn't have much luck. Everything came back for the S or Turbo.
Old 12-27-2017, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
So for comparison what's the 0-60 on the current base V6?
Current V6 0-60 is 7.3
Current S is 5.2
https://www.beverlyhillsporsche.com/...nne-trims.html

So indeed 2019 Base is not sluggish
Old 12-28-2017, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirill
Current V6 0-60 is 7.3
Current S is 5.2
https://www.beverlyhillsporsche.com/...nne-trims.html

So indeed 2019 Base is not sluggish
The new base will sell very well. Add the options you want and it will still be less for most than a base CS. For the majority of buyers the base will be more than enough. The new 2.9L turbo V6 in the S is a champ though.
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Just got an update from the dealer that the new Turbo should be available for December 2018 or later delivery (as opposed to originally expected fall 2018 delivery). I wonder if anyone has more info on if it's true.
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What about the base and the S? Is that due this summer?
Old 01-08-2018, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by importtuner
What about the base and the S? Is that due this summer?
From my SA:
MY19 Cayennes will be available for sale.
Model Type
On-Sale Date
2019 Cayenne Turbo
December 21, 2018
2019 Cayenne S
September 7, 2018
2019 Cayenne
October 17, 2018
Old 01-08-2018, 03:35 PM
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much later than I thought.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by porscherex
From my SA:
MY19 Cayennes will be available for sale.
Model Type
On-Sale Date
2019 Cayenne Turbo
December 21, 2018
2019 Cayenne S
September 7, 2018
2019 Cayenne
October 17, 2018
I got exactly the same dates from mine. Definitely later than anyone expected. So much for hoping to ED 2019 Turbo in September-October.
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Is it strange that the Cayenne S is coming out before the base?
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Originally Posted by importtuner
Is it strange that the Cayenne S is coming out before the base?
I asked the SA the same question. It seemed odd. He confirmed the dates are correct. Would the S arriving before the base have something to do with the engines?
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Originally Posted by porscherex
I asked the SA the same question. It seemed odd. He confirmed the dates are correct. Would the S arriving before the base have something to do with the engines?
From motortrend.
Back to the engines: The base Cayenne is powered by Porsche’s 3.0-liter single-turbo V-6 that develops 340 hp and 332 lb-ft of torque, up 40 hp and 37 lb-ft on its predecessor’s 3.6-liter naturally aspirated V-6. The Cayenne S gets the 440-hp, 405-lb-ft 2.9-liter twin-turbo V-6 originally developed by Audi. Power is up by 20 horses compared with the 3.6-liter twin-turbo V-6 of the outgoing Cayenne S, and peak torque is about the same.

The Cayenne Turbo boasts Porsche’s potent 4.0-liter twin-turbo V-8—the all-new engine that made its debut last year in the Panamera—under its hood. With 550 hp and 567 lb-ft of torque, it delivers a useful 30 hp and 14 lb-ft more than the 4.8-liter twin-turbo V-8 that powered the previous Cayenne Turbo—enough, says Porsche, to slingshot the new model to 60 mph in 3.9 seconds (3.7 seconds with the Sport Chrono Pack fitted) en route to a top speed of 177 mph.
If I were to guess, the base engine is newly developed. I actually thought the base Cayenne had the engine of the Macan S. Both 3.0L V-6, but the latter has twin-turbos, while the Cayenne's engine uses a single turbo. The S and Turbo use engines already in production.
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Wow ^ that is later dates than I had expected from talking with the dealer.

But does anybody really think the 2018 is a better Porsche and SUV than the new one to be in 2019?
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Originally Posted by importtuner
From motortrend.


If I were to guess, the base engine is newly developed. I actually thought the base Cayenne had the engine of the Macan S. Both 3.0L V-6, but the latter has twin-turbos, while the Cayenne's engine uses a single turbo. The S and Turbo use engines already in production.
The base Cayenne engine is an Audi engine developed with Porsche and is a larger version of the new 2.9L in the Cayenne S, Panamera, Audi RS5 and other models. The 3.0L has a longer stroke and a single turbo, producing 340hp. The 2.9 has a shorter stroke, reducing the displacement from 3.0L to 2.9L, with two turbos mounted between the intake manifolds and pumps out 440hp. This uses is one smaller turbo and a larger, second unit providing amazing low and mid-range torque and power.
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Originally Posted by TexasRider
Wow ^ that is later dates than I had expected from talking with the dealer.

But does anybody really think the 2018 is a better Porsche and SUV than the new one to be in 2019?
My 2 gripes with the 2019 is the rear design and the controls being replaced with a touch display. I can't pinpoint to exactly what the rear needs. I like the "3D" lights on other Porsche models and think its a cool concept, but its not working for me in the new Cayenne. What I'm excited about are the new powertrains. In fact, what I'm most looking forward to is the hybrid version, if its in the works.


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