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Been waiting to buy an E-Hybrid because they couldn't tow. The 2019s now offer a tow package option finally so I am set on getting one next year for a Fall delivery in Germany for a vacation with my wife and our friends.
I need help understanding something. If I get the 7.2KW charger option, I believe it allows you to charge the battery twice as fast on standard house 110V than the standard 3.6KW charger. I think I am correct in saying you get the wall charger and the round cover for the charger that mounts on the wall with the car. The 3.6KW or the 7.2KW chargers are built into the car and not changeable after purchase.
I need help understanding the E-Mobity Options below:
1. What is the difference between the 6-30, 14-30, and 14-50 sockets and what are they for? I thought it came standard with everything you needed to charge in your home. Do I need these? Are these for getting a 220V/Single phase installed in the garage?
2. What is the Supply Cable for hardwired Install?
3. If I plug into a public charger that has a cable, do I need anything other than the car?
Thanks!
Last edited by Pavegeno928; 05-12-2018 at 06:28 PM.
Personally, if you get a plug in, spend the extra cash to get a 220v system installed in your garage. But some people dont because once the get home after work, they dont need it to charge up in 3 hours.
So by the next morning its charged.
On a 110v outlet, it will charge at slowest rate even with a 7.2kW charger. The 7.2kW charger is only good if you plan to install a 220v 40 amp circuits. Spending the extra cash to speed charging up is good if you cant stay plugged most of the time for 3 hrs.
But its not necessary, it depends of your daily routine and millage.
110V is like 8 amp i think, maybe 12.
3.6kw is 20 amp at 220v
7.2kw is 40 amp.
You chose the option one or the other that will come in the charging case with the car.
look at this video,
The different Nema plug are depending on what you have at home or plan to install. Google them, you will see what they look like and the max amp rating.
I suggest Nema 14-50 is like a 220v welding machine plug.
Hardwire is not the best, as it makes it fixed to that location, unable to bring it with you.
Public charger, you do not need your cable, you use the one on the public box.
1. I live in a town with few, if any public stations. I have a regular work schedule so I will be able to plug the Cayenne in overnight at home all the time so the long 110V charging time is not an issue. My work location doesn't have any plug-ins either. In this case if I select a 7.2kw and 14-50 to have just in case I travel or sell the vehicle in the future, will I still get a cord standard with the car that will allow me to plug into 110V at home or does ordering the 7.2Kw/10-50 now force me to modify my garage with a 220V outlet?
The 3.6KW or the 7.2KW chargers are built into the car and not changeable after purchase.
Thanks!
3.6kw or 7.2kw chargers are built into the car? Why would anyone choose the slower charging option? That's like buying a car with a straw as a gas line and it taking 20 minutes to fill your tank up compared to less than 5 minutes with a regular sized hose.
Plug-in vehicles should be able to charge as fast as an outlet can allow them. I would certainly not want a vehicle I could never charge fast, especially if charging ports start appearing on more parking lots in the near future.
I have a electrician coming over to install a NEMA 6-50 250V outlet/receptacle. I can only find 50 amp outlet, the charger cable says 40 amp is the max, my Cayenne came with the standard 3.6 kW on-board charger. I told them to just install a 30 amp breaker but they are telling me if I'm using a 50 amp outlet I need to use a 50 amp breaker. Does anyone have any info on this?
Personally, if you get a plug in, spend the extra cash to get a 220v system installed in your garage. But some people dont because once the get home after work, they dont need it to charge up in 3 hours.
So by the next morning its charged.
On a 110v outlet, it will charge at slowest rate even with a 7.2kW charger. The 7.2kW charger is only good if you plan to install a 220v 40 amp circuits. Spending the extra cash to speed charging up is good if you cant stay plugged most of the time for 3 hrs.
But its not necessary, it depends of your daily routine and millage.
110V is like 8 amp i think, maybe 12.
3.6kw is 20 amp at 220v
7.2kw is 40 amp.
You chose the option one or the other that will come in the charging case with the car.
look at this video, https://youtu.be/xjt_iczsH8g
The different Nema plug are depending on what you have at home or plan to install. Google them, you will see what they look like and the max amp rating.
I suggest Nema 14-50 is like a 220v welding machine plug.
Hardwire is not the best, as it makes it fixed to that location, unable to bring it with you.
Public charger, you do not need your cable, you use the one on the public box.
So to install a 220v outlet in the garage (40 amp) do I need the NEMA 14-50 cable? My garage has a dryer socket already in place. I am not sure of the voltage but can check.
I took a picture from the manual for the 2019 e-hybrid that may help. And the "moral" of this story is... in terms of bang per buck... first get a 240 VAC outlet and drop charging times from 19 hours to 4. THEN, if circumstances warrant, upgrade to the 7.2kw internal charger if the $800 is worth going from 4 hours down to 2.5. John
I took a picture from the manual for the 2019 e-hybrid that may help. And the "moral" of this story is... in terms of bang per buck... first get a 240 VAC outlet and drop charging times from 19 hours to 4. THEN, if circumstances warrant, upgrade to the 7.2kw internal charger if the $800 is worth going from 4 hours down to 2.5. John
Based on this chart, does anyone have an idea of how long it would take to charge with a 240V 20amp connection on the 7.2 kW setup. I want to be able to upgrade in the future but this is the connection I have now. I can use an adapter to work with the NEMA 14-50 cable.
OK, I read the link above. It looks like the 240V 20amp connected to the 7.2kW setup might be 3 to 4 hours (estimate). The information says that with Tesla you change the setting on the car to accept 20 amp vs 40 to not overload the circuit. Is this possible in the Cayenne e-hybrid?
My E-hybrid has the standard 3.6kw charger built in, and it came with a NEMA 6-50 240v cable. My garage has an ancient NEMA 10-30 outlet that supplies 240v at 20 amps.
I’ve been deliberating for the last few weeks whether to bring in 50 amp service. Meanwhile, I’ve been charging in 20+ hrs at 110v. The manual says that with the 3.6 charger, 30, 40 or 50 amps makes no difference. But it doesn’t mention 20 amps.
After being quoted a ridiculous price by an electrician to bring in new service, I ordered a Zencar 240v 16 amp charger on Amazon for $200. They have a NEMA 10-30 compatible unit, as they also have many others. It came today, and I just hooked it up to a fully depleted Cayenne. The display told me exactly 4 hrs to fully charge. And when I checked again 15 minutes later,,it said 3:45.
The moral of the story: If you’ve got the standard 3.6kw charger, 20 amp service is all you need. And I’m glad I didn’t spend big bucks to bring in needless 50 amps!
05-12-2018, 05:22 PM
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