Notices
Cayenne 9Y0 2019 - 3rd Generation
Sponsored By:
Sponsored By:

Macan EV is here

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-25-2024, 04:41 PM
  #1  
Vapordan
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
Vapordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: True North
Posts: 196
Received 114 Likes on 68 Posts
Default Macan EV is here

The Electric Macan Is $18,900 More Than The Gas-Powered Macan (msn.com)
I think that thing will sell by the thousands.
Porsche on the price with zero Fs given. Pay or go away.
Old 01-25-2024, 04:46 PM
  #2  
95spiderman
Burning Brakes
 
95spiderman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ny
Posts: 920
Received 149 Likes on 96 Posts
Default

its twice the price of a tesla Y but without the tesla infrastructure to charge it.

it does look nice though and i bet it drives like a porsche so there is that
Old 01-25-2024, 04:52 PM
  #3  
KeylessGo
Advanced
 
KeylessGo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Düsseldorf
Posts: 72
Received 39 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

I’m drooling over those interior ambient lights. They look potentially retrofitable to our Cayenne😁
Old 01-25-2024, 04:53 PM
  #4  
KeylessGo
Advanced
 
KeylessGo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Düsseldorf
Posts: 72
Received 39 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

But considering how Taycan priced are sinking, expect to get one for 40k in 2 years.
The following users liked this post:
Manhattan_trout (01-27-2024)
Old 01-25-2024, 05:08 PM
  #5  
mattsrs
Pro
 
mattsrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 562
Received 182 Likes on 135 Posts
Default

Ridiculous pricing for a tiny suv
The following 3 users liked this post by mattsrs:
chakka (01-28-2024), golftime (01-25-2024), rsabeebe (01-26-2024)
Old 01-25-2024, 05:13 PM
  #6  
mgx1020
Racer
 
mgx1020's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 340
Received 118 Likes on 89 Posts
Default

Personally think the parts bin being reused on every model is pretty sad. The vents the dash, the PCM, pass screen

Not a fan of the headlamps in the bumper. Awful trend started by the Nissan Juke and now in many Hyundai’s. The whole car also just has ID.4 vibes.

also, P going grey scale for turbos is also so weird.

Very interested in the augmented reality features but if technology issues are any indication… GL to first adopters. These will be $999 lease specials very soon
Old 01-25-2024, 05:23 PM
  #7  
ThomasWShea
Burning Brakes
 
ThomasWShea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2023
Location: Northwest United States
Posts: 861
Received 312 Likes on 231 Posts
Default

The real test will be when a person jumps into it and closes the door: does it feel like a tesla, or does it still feel like a porsche? Logically, if it's electric, and a porsche, and they didn't take a bunch of normal ev quality shortcuts, it should cost about twice the tesla.
Old 01-25-2024, 08:52 PM
  #8  
MaxLTV
Rennlist Member
 
MaxLTV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: West Vancouver and San Francisco
Posts: 4,210
Received 1,164 Likes on 577 Posts
Default

Well, here is what's intersting - Macan Turbo has the same performance specs as Taycan CT Turbo and can be equipped quite similarly at only 2/3 of the Taycan's price. My configs were $120K US for Macan and $180K for Taycan CT. I like Taycan more, but getting something that's practically as good for 2/3 of the price is seriously tempting. I'm sure the interior will be a little more basic and so on, but damn, $60K US is another base Macan... I guess competition forced Porsche to up the specs of the Macan so high it started to bump into Taycan. Some may say different classes and not comparable, but looking at specs and photos, there is not that much difference.
Old 01-26-2024, 10:21 AM
  #9  
Silververtu
Pro
 
Silververtu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 659
Received 225 Likes on 168 Posts
Default

I am a bit surprised the starting price gap between MacanEV 4 and Turbo is less than $20k. The price difference is even less after adding options, it’s less than $17k in my case.
Old 01-26-2024, 10:47 AM
  #10  
craig001
Drifting
 
craig001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,264
Received 67 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

I did builds on the p-car website just for grins, $117k for the Macan EV4 and $146k for the Macan EV-Turbo. I'll pass and wait for the Cayenne EV version that is tenatively set for 2026.
Old 01-26-2024, 01:26 PM
  #11  
gatorfast
Rennlist Member
 
gatorfast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SFla
Posts: 735
Received 451 Likes on 257 Posts
Default

Porsche did a great job with it
Old 01-26-2024, 03:49 PM
  #12  
pinion
Rennlist Member
 
pinion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 327
Received 183 Likes on 118 Posts
Default

I just don’t see how this one fills the 800,000 unit hole in the line up… Porsche Macan pulls that off shifting 60-70k base models… not 100k EVs. It will be very interesting to see how that part of the Porsche fleet develops.
Old 01-26-2024, 04:05 PM
  #13  
Vapordan
Instructor
Thread Starter
 
Vapordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: True North
Posts: 196
Received 114 Likes on 68 Posts
Default

I ran across this: Cybersecurity Law Forces Porsche To Kill Gas-Powered Macan In Europe (msn.com)

I read the Cyber law, in a nutshell, it sets out basic requirements for a Secure lifecycle development of the product (eg., the Macan or any other P. car). This is a basic requirement for all software shops irrespective of industry and following those requirements is nothing new. We even have standards like NIST, ISF, CCM frameworks in support of these requirements. So it's definitely not new. They should have been using secure development for years. What's interesting to me is that Porsche would rather kill the entire line (most successful platform as of last year) because of non-compliance to Cyber security mandates rather than fix it? I call total bull**** on this.

The Macan EV has been in development for several years, right? Using the SAME development environment that was non-compliant. I can assume that is the case because the Cyber law draft would not have predated the Macan EV development. Car development cycles are 6 - 8 years usually. I can't say for certain but it sure seems plausible that the law came AFTER the car was deep into implementation and testing. How is it Porsche is able to turn on a dime for Macan EV but not Macan? Something smells in there.
Old 01-26-2024, 07:32 PM
  #14  
retom
Racer
 
retom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 470
Received 287 Likes on 175 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Vapordan
I ran across this: Cybersecurity Law Forces Porsche To Kill Gas-Powered Macan In Europe (msn.com)

I read the Cyber law, in a nutshell, it sets out basic requirements for a Secure lifecycle development of the product (eg., the Macan or any other P. car). This is a basic requirement for all software shops irrespective of industry and following those requirements is nothing new. We even have standards like NIST, ISF, CCM frameworks in support of these requirements. So it's definitely not new. They should have been using secure development for years. What's interesting to me is that Porsche would rather kill the entire line (most successful platform as of last year) because of non-compliance to Cyber security mandates rather than fix it? I call total bull**** on this.

The Macan EV has been in development for several years, right? Using the SAME development environment that was non-compliant. I can assume that is the case because the Cyber law draft would not have predated the Macan EV development. Car development cycles are 6 - 8 years usually. I can't say for certain but it sure seems plausible that the law came AFTER the car was deep into implementation and testing. How is it Porsche is able to turn on a dime for Macan EV but not Macan? Something smells in there.
Yes, it's true, Macan ICE will be withdrawn from production in July mainly due to the new EU regulations regarding cybersecurity. Apparently the upgrade was too expensive.
We must remember that the Macan is built on the first-generation Audi Q5 platform. So it is in fact quite old technology.
Macan BEV was developed together with Audi. E-Macan and Q6 e-tron are twins which share the same technology and a lot of parts.

​PS. There is a good news for US market: Macan ICE should be kept on this market probably for next 2 years.

Last edited by retom; 01-26-2024 at 08:32 PM.
Old 01-26-2024, 08:15 PM
  #15  
retom
Racer
 
retom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 470
Received 287 Likes on 175 Posts
Default

If you haven't seen it yet:
The following users liked this post:
mdrobc1213 (02-15-2024)


Quick Reply: Macan EV is here



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 08:26 PM.