Macan EV is here
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Macan EV is here
The Electric Macan Is $18,900 More Than The Gas-Powered Macan (msn.com)
I think that thing will sell by the thousands.
Porsche on the price with zero Fs given. Pay or go away.
I think that thing will sell by the thousands.
Porsche on the price with zero Fs given. Pay or go away.
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Burning Brakes
its twice the price of a tesla Y but without the tesla infrastructure to charge it.
it does look nice though and i bet it drives like a porsche so there is that
it does look nice though and i bet it drives like a porsche so there is that
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Manhattan_trout (01-27-2024)
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Ridiculous pricing for a tiny suv
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Personally think the parts bin being reused on every model is pretty sad. The vents the dash, the PCM, pass screen
Not a fan of the headlamps in the bumper. Awful trend started by the Nissan Juke and now in many Hyundai’s. The whole car also just has ID.4 vibes.
also, P going grey scale for turbos is also so weird.
Very interested in the augmented reality features but if technology issues are any indication… GL to first adopters. These will be $999 lease specials very soon
Not a fan of the headlamps in the bumper. Awful trend started by the Nissan Juke and now in many Hyundai’s. The whole car also just has ID.4 vibes.
also, P going grey scale for turbos is also so weird.
Very interested in the augmented reality features but if technology issues are any indication… GL to first adopters. These will be $999 lease specials very soon
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Burning Brakes
The real test will be when a person jumps into it and closes the door: does it feel like a tesla, or does it still feel like a porsche? Logically, if it's electric, and a porsche, and they didn't take a bunch of normal ev quality shortcuts, it should cost about twice the tesla.
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Well, here is what's intersting - Macan Turbo has the same performance specs as Taycan CT Turbo and can be equipped quite similarly at only 2/3 of the Taycan's price. My configs were $120K US for Macan and $180K for Taycan CT. I like Taycan more, but getting something that's practically as good for 2/3 of the price is seriously tempting. I'm sure the interior will be a little more basic and so on, but damn, $60K US is another base Macan... I guess competition forced Porsche to up the specs of the Macan so high it started to bump into Taycan. Some may say different classes and not comparable, but looking at specs and photos, there is not that much difference.
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Drifting
I did builds on the p-car website just for grins, $117k for the Macan EV4 and $146k for the Macan EV-Turbo. I'll pass and wait for the Cayenne EV version that is tenatively set for 2026.
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Porsche did a great job with it
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I just don’t see how this one fills the 800,000 unit hole in the line up… Porsche Macan pulls that off shifting 60-70k base models… not 100k EVs. It will be very interesting to see how that part of the Porsche fleet develops.
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I ran across this: Cybersecurity Law Forces Porsche To Kill Gas-Powered Macan In Europe (msn.com)
I read the Cyber law, in a nutshell, it sets out basic requirements for a Secure lifecycle development of the product (eg., the Macan or any other P. car). This is a basic requirement for all software shops irrespective of industry and following those requirements is nothing new. We even have standards like NIST, ISF, CCM frameworks in support of these requirements. So it's definitely not new. They should have been using secure development for years. What's interesting to me is that Porsche would rather kill the entire line (most successful platform as of last year) because of non-compliance to Cyber security mandates rather than fix it? I call total bull**** on this.
The Macan EV has been in development for several years, right? Using the SAME development environment that was non-compliant. I can assume that is the case because the Cyber law draft would not have predated the Macan EV development. Car development cycles are 6 - 8 years usually. I can't say for certain but it sure seems plausible that the law came AFTER the car was deep into implementation and testing. How is it Porsche is able to turn on a dime for Macan EV but not Macan? Something smells in there.
I read the Cyber law, in a nutshell, it sets out basic requirements for a Secure lifecycle development of the product (eg., the Macan or any other P. car). This is a basic requirement for all software shops irrespective of industry and following those requirements is nothing new. We even have standards like NIST, ISF, CCM frameworks in support of these requirements. So it's definitely not new. They should have been using secure development for years. What's interesting to me is that Porsche would rather kill the entire line (most successful platform as of last year) because of non-compliance to Cyber security mandates rather than fix it? I call total bull**** on this.
The Macan EV has been in development for several years, right? Using the SAME development environment that was non-compliant. I can assume that is the case because the Cyber law draft would not have predated the Macan EV development. Car development cycles are 6 - 8 years usually. I can't say for certain but it sure seems plausible that the law came AFTER the car was deep into implementation and testing. How is it Porsche is able to turn on a dime for Macan EV but not Macan? Something smells in there.
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I ran across this: Cybersecurity Law Forces Porsche To Kill Gas-Powered Macan In Europe (msn.com)
I read the Cyber law, in a nutshell, it sets out basic requirements for a Secure lifecycle development of the product (eg., the Macan or any other P. car). This is a basic requirement for all software shops irrespective of industry and following those requirements is nothing new. We even have standards like NIST, ISF, CCM frameworks in support of these requirements. So it's definitely not new. They should have been using secure development for years. What's interesting to me is that Porsche would rather kill the entire line (most successful platform as of last year) because of non-compliance to Cyber security mandates rather than fix it? I call total bull**** on this.
The Macan EV has been in development for several years, right? Using the SAME development environment that was non-compliant. I can assume that is the case because the Cyber law draft would not have predated the Macan EV development. Car development cycles are 6 - 8 years usually. I can't say for certain but it sure seems plausible that the law came AFTER the car was deep into implementation and testing. How is it Porsche is able to turn on a dime for Macan EV but not Macan? Something smells in there.
I read the Cyber law, in a nutshell, it sets out basic requirements for a Secure lifecycle development of the product (eg., the Macan or any other P. car). This is a basic requirement for all software shops irrespective of industry and following those requirements is nothing new. We even have standards like NIST, ISF, CCM frameworks in support of these requirements. So it's definitely not new. They should have been using secure development for years. What's interesting to me is that Porsche would rather kill the entire line (most successful platform as of last year) because of non-compliance to Cyber security mandates rather than fix it? I call total bull**** on this.
The Macan EV has been in development for several years, right? Using the SAME development environment that was non-compliant. I can assume that is the case because the Cyber law draft would not have predated the Macan EV development. Car development cycles are 6 - 8 years usually. I can't say for certain but it sure seems plausible that the law came AFTER the car was deep into implementation and testing. How is it Porsche is able to turn on a dime for Macan EV but not Macan? Something smells in there.
We must remember that the Macan is built on the first-generation Audi Q5 platform. So it is in fact quite old technology.
Macan BEV was developed together with Audi. E-Macan and Q6 e-tron are twins which share the same technology and a lot of parts.
PS. There is a good news for US market: Macan ICE should be kept on this market probably for next 2 years.
Last edited by retom; 01-26-2024 at 08:32 PM.