Rennlist Discussion Forums - 997 GT2/GT3 Forum

Should I buy 07 RS...with engine repair?

Schmidts Cat — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:41:41 GMT

I have a lead on a really nice 07 RS at an attractive price. BUT, it did have some kind of engine trouble in the first 8-10k mi, and porsche rebuilt the motor. Assuming the motor is fine now, and warranted, what's it worth? Is the engine work a deal breaker? Other than that the car is perfect.

2010 RS wing in the mail

roberga — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:10:57 GMT

Got more marketing pieces in the mail today. A little replica RS wing. They sure have a gigantic marketing budget.

What a great sound...

Turbo4ever — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:50:33 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff-Dy...eature=related

expensive I guess...

Say Hello to another Local Shark-a-fied 2008 997 GT3

sharkster — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:45:00 GMT

Give Marc a warm welcome fellas... he just picked up his first GT3. A classic white 2008 997GT3 and on the menu was SharkWerks Exhaust, the SharkWerks larger diameter tips as well as the Cargraphic radiator screen kit. The owner of this car also had a very nice Cayman S RS350 that we built the year before.

Here she is awaiting her turn with a fully-built 3.9L GT3...

Once on the lift, off come the lights and other pieces in order to take the bumper off.

And then off comes the fender liner:

Cleaning out all of the debris:

Bumper off:

In go the Cargraphic screens...

The bumper cover back on with the screens:

Over to the rear end. Off comes the bumper:

Off comes the factory exhaust:

On goes the Sharkwerks exhaust and the SharkWerks Tips as well:

There's the tag:

There she is ready to go home:

'10 GT3 RS Dealer Release Info

rmag — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:34:34 GMT

Dealer forwarded me this. Most info already known ..... but has comparison page of '10RS/10GT3/'08RS

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Aqua Blue metallic...

dertub — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:45:39 GMT

Now, this looks good in Aqua Blue...

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Race Springs for 2010 PASM?

DavidNR — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:53:40 GMT

Excerpt from the February 2009 Porsche Academy Product News, second paragraph page 13:

Quote:

The suspension system including vehicle height can also be equipped with racing springs to enable adaptation to the individually desired handling characteristics. (Note: These modifications are only permissible for driving on roads/tracks away from public traffic, as they affect the vehicle�s handling characteristics substantially).

Any info if Porsche will offer PASM compatible higher rate springs? Or are they taking about complete PASM replacement with Motons/springs or similar?

I have a .pdf copy of the publication if anyone needs it. PM me.

It's only a matter of time...

Nizer — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:05:19 GMT

...before we get a rear diffuser for the GT3

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GT3-Dynamic Engine Mounts... crucial?

Haku — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:57:40 GMT

I'm considering a '10 GT3 and there appear to be a couple around that might have the spec I want. Unfortunately none of them have the Dynamic Engine Mounts as options. How crucial an option is this? I don't mind passing up on the cars that are available and waiting for a built to order allocation.

Possibly the reason why the GT3 didn't get PDK???...

911rox — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:20:08 GMT

Well we've heard all sorts of reasons for the GT3 not getting PDK (for those who want it)....

We've heard about weight disadvantage issues, it not being in the character of the car, not designed to couple to Metzger motor, it not being allowed in the current FIA rules for this class of car and now according to the Porsche Australia managing director, Michael Winkler:

Winkler said their PDK twin-clutch transmission would not be suitable for racing. "A race-adequate PDK would be too uncomfortable for driving on the road," he said.

Throws a cat amogst the pigeons for all those claiming the current PDK is up to the task of hardcore track work assuming there is truth to his claims. Food for thought...

Printed in the local papers this week... Who knows what the truth really is...

FYI: the article...

http://www.carsguide.com.au/site/new...t3_2010_review

Lightweight bucket seat = CGT seat ?

Turbo4ever — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:33:08 GMT

Same?

I mean the lightest one, not the plastic folding bucket seats.

PCCB to GT3 Cup steel rotors - bitter sweet conversion

mikymu — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:18:59 GMT

Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes. Just the name and that abbreviation sound fantastic. What is not to like about the PCCB - it's new, light, less heat, minimal dust, last longer and oh, of course the god like stopping power. I was sold on PCCB when it first came out and bought my green RS with PCCB. I could not tell the difference on the street - PCCB vs conventional steel brakes until I barrel down turn 1 at Thunderhill trying to slow down the car from 135 mph .... OMG! I could not stop!? I step on the brake pedal so hard I thought I was going to yank my steering wheel off. It was one of the most scary track experience. Subsequently, I bleed the brakes and replaced with Motul and bed the heck out of PCCB - it was slightly better but nothing even close to the confidence inspiring stopping power of my M3's OEM steel brakes (one lousy piston caliper lol) with performance friction 01 pads. So for the past year, I say a prayer and give an offering to the track gods before each event hoping I can stop when I am suppose to. What I end up doing is brake way early or ridding on the brakes way before stopping zone to heat it up so it will bite. Needless to say, I will pass other then get caught up on braking zones :mad:

What is wrong these PCCB which was shaped on the same furnace that made the Greek gods? After some research, I found out there was nothing wrong with them. The problem lies in the cost. Each rotor cost as much as Paris Hilton's purse so no one in their right mind will use a proper track pads - including Dr. Porsche. You will have some angry customers when they find out it cost more than $10K to replace all 4 PCCB rotors after some track use with proper track pads.

I was not about to shoot myself in the foot by using aggressive pads on these PCCB. The only option other than go slower and stop early on the track is to replace them with steel rotors and aggressive pads.

So, what are the options for PCCB to steel rotor conversion? The good news is that there are several options now compare with one year ago. Brembo and stoptech make two piece floating rotors which are fantastic replacement options. But what about the 997 GT3 Cup cars - they have 380 mm front and 350 mm rear steel rotors which are the same diameter as my PCCB. After inspecting them some more, I decided to go with the Cup car solution since they been tested since 2005 on the track and cost less than other options.

OK, let's get started with this conversion. First of all, bleed your brakes while you are at it. OEM brake fluid is crap. I used Motul RBF 600 racing brake fluid. They work well and feels much better than OEM. Craig from Rennstore is a good source for these parts

Here is a picture of Motul brake fluid. I used a turkey baster to suck out the OEM brake fluid from the brake reservoir. Ignore the file ... it was for my toenail lol

The screen on top of the brake reservoir is PITA to remove. You have to twist and turn then yank on it hard to pull it out. You have to line up the open ends of the grooves on the brake reservoir with the filter screen. Take care not to spill brake fluid on the paint - they are like paint thinner

I used a pressure bleeder - much easier than manual pumping the brake pedal. Your wife will thank you

Start with the caliper furtherest from the brake reservoir and work your way in. Remember these Brembo caliper have 2 bleeder valve and you have to bleed each side. I wish the Motul brake fluid come in different color than OEM - this way you can easily tell when the new fluid start to come out

OK, now let's get the 997 GT3 Cup car rotors. When I inspect the Cup car, I noticed the rear rotors are one piece. It turns out they use 997 TT rear rotors so you can retain parking brake function and fits the wide body Cup car. I don't know if they fit narrow body GT3. They can be had from Suncoast for about $300 a pair - super cheap. The front Cup car steel rotors can be sourced from various Porsche race shops and I got my from Porsche Motorsport. Average price is around $2750 and it could be higher or lower depends on where you source the parts. Disclaimer from Porsche Motorsport: These front Cup rotors are designed for track use and not street.

Here are the parts number for the front Cup rotors

(1) 993 351 407 87 L/F Rotor
(1) 993 351 408 87 R/F Rotor
(2) 996 351 415 9A Front Brake Hat
(4) 900 075 010 03 Rotor Screw
(20) 964 351 437 81 Brake Bobbin
(20) 900 378 030 09 Attachment Bolt

Here is a picture of the parts necessary for the conversion. I chose Pagid yellow RS29 brake pads for the job

OK, now let's assemble the front Cup rotors and mate the hat to the rotors with bobbins and attachment bolts

These bobbins have a slit on one end only. My PCCB's bobbin had it's slit facing the front of the car and that's what I decided to use to orient the bobbins

I hand tighten the attachment bolts first with 10 mm socket

Factory torque spec on these 10 mm attachment bolts are 9.7 NM which is only 7.15 lb/ft .. and ten of these small 10 mm bolts are suppose to hold the rotor to the hat!? OMG! Oh well, I got scared and used 8 lb/ft instead lol

I dab a small paint on each bolt after I torque them. I alternate the the bolts by going from opposite ends to make sure the hat sits evenly on the rotor

Cup rotors all assembled. They are super aggressive looking! They look good enough to frame it as an art piece lol

Notice the orientation of the cross drill holes and the cooling vent. This is the right (passenger side) rotor with the arrow like central cooling vent pointing toward the front of the car

Back side

Video of Walter R�hrl driving the 997.2 GT3 on the Ring

ADias — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:10:58 GMT

Note: I apologize if this is a repost.

Walter R�hrl drives a 997.2 GT3 on the Ring:

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This is how these cars should be driven on this sort of roads. :)

I've seen other videos with R�hrl driving Porsches on the Ring but this is the smoothest of all. This car is poised and balanced like no other 11 before. The 997.2 suspension/chassis changes, including the Carreras, are simply awesome.

calling rennlisters in/from taiwan

mooty — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:30:17 GMT

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FS: 2007 GT3 - Track / DE Ready

zmann — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:39:38 GMT

As I shared here recently, I completed Club Racing School and already bought a track prepared race car. I have too many cars and have come to the difficult decision of letting the 3 go :crying:

I have been told that I should part my car out and take it back to stock to get the best price for it. That may be the route I go at the end, but the car is so well set up now that I am going to offer it as is first. It is a great DE car if that is what someone is looking for.....

I am asking $95K for it. It has over $30K in upgrades.

Original Equipment
Black on Black
Full leather
Fire Extinguisher
Upgraded stereo
7,XXX miles
PCCB (removed from the car after only a few weekends of DEs)
Navigation
Deviated (yellow) stitching

After Factory Upgrades:
Moton Club Sport coilovers with Eibach springs (only used 5 times)
RSS Thrust arm bushing kit (front and rear)
RSS Monoball lower control arm kit (front and rear)
RSS Adjustable Toe Steer Kit
RSS Adjustable rear link kit
Sharkwerks bypass
Brembo (iron) floating, slotted front & standard iron rear Porsche rotors
Light Weight Flywheel
Cobra Technology Suzuka Seats (carbon fiber)
Schroth 6 pt belts
GMG roll bar
Original set of 19" wheels with new R888s (used once)
1 set of 18" CCW wheels with R6s (6 heat cycles)
Wired for Cool Shirt with mount under hood
Trackmate

The car turns a 1:35 flat at Road Atlanta on R6s

The car has been well taken car of with frequent oil changes, brake bleeding, etc. The hood, front fenders, rocker panels and front of rear quarter panels were covered with film. I removed it this weekend and the finish looks great. That said, I want to be open in that I have used this primarily as a DE car. It has never been in an accident. I used this car to learn to drive fast and ultimately need to drive wheel to wheel. Letting it go isn't easy, but it's time to move on.

Pics below. PM me if you have interest. Z

I have removed the stickers since this pic was taken:

In the driveway the day I brought it home

Here is the original interior. Still have the original seats. They were hardly used

The recently installed Motons