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Rennlist Discussion Forums - 993 Turbo Forum http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:20:03 GMT vBulletin 60 http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:forums.rennlist.com/get/rennforums/images/misc/rss.jpg Rennlist Discussion Forums - 993 Turbo Forum http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums How about K16-K24 hybrids with a Porsche 450 ecu? http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/536122-how-about-k16-k24-hybrids-with-a-porsche-450-ecu-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:15:19 GMT Okay then chaps...the consensus was don't do it!!!

I have found a UK supplier who can fit a K24 compressor to my spare K16's, and refurb them at the same time. What's the view on these couple with the Porsche 450 ECU?

Taj. ]]> 993 Turbo Forum Taj http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/536122-how-about-k16-k24-hybrids-with-a-porsche-450-ecu.html Feeling left out http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/536080-feeling-left-out-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:09:06 GMT :crying: So great with posts from new 993tt owners. I feel the love! Alas, I thought I would soon be joining the group, but have run into a minor... :crying:
So great with posts from new 993tt owners. I feel the love!
Alas, I thought I would soon be joining the group, but have run into a minor glitch. I went to look at the black 993tt in Charlotte two weeks ago and made the owner an offer. Car went in for a PPI yesterday, showed two cylinders had poor leakdown. PO is getting engine repaired by Eurowerks in Charlotte ( possibly bent/burned intake valves).
What do you guys think.......still worthwhile to continue with the PPI/purschase after the repair, or walk.

Appreciate your views and comments.

Adriano ]]> 993 Turbo Forum trinaia http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/536080-feeling-left-out.html New member saying hello http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/536064-new-member-saying-hello-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:56:19 GMT Hi guys, new member all the way from South Africa. Been lurking here for a little while and thought it's finally time to make an introduction. Learned quite a few interesting things about the 993's turbos here. Lots of knowledgable people.

I have a 993 TTS along with one or two other cars.

Best, ]]> 993 Turbo Forum Mike_S http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/536064-new-member-saying-hello.html My ~new to me~ 993 Turbo http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/536026-my-new-to-me-993-turbo-new-post.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:16:17 GMT Well, I have been searching for a couple of months for a 993 Turbo. I finally bought one this week in California.

It's a 1996 model with a handful of mods. Black with black and tan interior. Some of you may recognize it as it belonged to a fellow Rennlister.

UMW hybrid turbos
Cargraphic aux oil cooler
5 bar fpr
Protomotive intercooler
GT2 clutch
LWF
Front euro bumper with turbo s ducts and euro turn signals
Rear euro turn signals
RSR loud muffler
Techart sport cat
Gert Front Protection Bar

There are a few issues that I am having fixed before I bring the car home to Pinewood, a small town in northern Minnesota.

I only have a picture that was taken before I bought the car. When I get the car home I will get some better pics. I was able to drive the car for about 6 miles on a busy California freeway so I really can't comment much on the car yet. I have had older 911's in the past but this is the first 993 for me. If there are any things I should know about these cars, your advice is appreciated.

]]> 993 Turbo Forum gandalfthegray. http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/536026-my-new-to-me-993-turbo.html Trade 40 Ford convertible for your 993tt http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535986-trade-40-ford-convertible-for-your-993tt-new-post.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:54:21 GMT I'm looking for a 96 993tt. I'm interested in trading an original all steel 1940 Ford convertible. The 40 is in excellent restored condition, the 40 is currently for sale it is listed @$69,950.00
for photos and contact info pm me or email: showcar34@msn.com

thanks,
steve

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]]> 993 Turbo Forum steve doty http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535986-trade-40-ford-convertible-for-your-993tt.html 993 TT oil recommendation? http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535953-993-tt-oil-recommendation-new-post.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:34:50 GMT So, I've spent a few hours reading all the oil threads I can find in the air cooled section of this site.

Seems that Brad Penn 20w-50 is the stuff for the older 911 and the NA 993s.

However, for the 993tt, which has those lovely hot turbos, is a dino oil sufficient?

I didn't get a straight answer in this forum using the search function, but it seems people are sticking with M1 15w-50 despite the alleged lack of ZDDP and other additives.

So, do I go with BP for the zddp but risk coking the turbos, or do I go M1 for its synthetic goodness but risk damaged valvetrain from lack of ZDDP?

thanks for any input, and sorry for another oil thread. ]]> 993 Turbo Forum Quadcammer http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535953-993-tt-oil-recommendation.html Long Trip in a 993TT...what would you bring http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535916-long-trip-in-a-993tt-what-would-you-bring-new-post.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:55:38 GMT There is a good chance I will be making a 2800 mile trip in a 993 TT in the coming weeks. Heres my plan so far: 1. Blue painters tape for... There is a good chance I will be making a 2800 mile trip in a 993 TT in the coming weeks.

Heres my plan so far:

1. Blue painters tape for mirrors, front bumper and hood, leading A pillar edges, rear wheel well fronts, and leading edge of rear wing.
2. Spare DME relay and spare alt/fan belts
3. 3 quarts of oil (M1 15w-50 or some Brad Penn/Swepco 20w-50 if i can find it)
4. Battery for remote
5. Some basic hand tools

Any other things you guys recommend?

Thanks ]]> 993 Turbo Forum Quadcammer http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535916-long-trip-in-a-993tt-what-would-you-bring.html pictures!!!!!!!!! http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535833-pictures-new-post.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:25:19 GMT i just powder coated a set of O.E.M. hollow spoke rims black and attached pirelli winter tires to them. car is stock besides H & R springs, clear corners and turbo S ducts.

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]]> 993 Turbo Forum driveitlikeyoustoleit http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535833-pictures.html Dealers PPI with no leakdown http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535810-dealers-ppi-with-no-leakdown-new-post.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:44:04 GMT I am looking at buy a 96 993TT and the porsche dealership wants $400 to do a PPI that does not include compression/leakdown. It checks body panels... I am looking at buy a 96 993TT and the porsche dealership wants $400 to do a PPI that does not include compression/leakdown. It checks body panels paint thickness etc. They use the obd port and computer to see if the engine is balanced as far as compression goes. This PPI is what Porsche uses to inspect for CPO cars. I told the service manager that I wanted a compression/leakdown down test done. They charge $700 for that only. What are your opinions of whether or not to go to the more expensive PPI.
Thanks
Jeff ]]> 993 Turbo Forum WhiteHotPepper http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535810-dealers-ppi-with-no-leakdown.html 993TT vs 355 Spider http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535777-993tt-vs-355-spider-new-post.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:57:03 GMT I added a Ferrari 355 Spider to the 993TT in the garage over the summer and after a few months of driving both back to back, I think I'm starting to get a handle on the Ferrari. I know there are people in both camps that are passionate and insistent that one is better than the other, but each car has great strengths and a few weaknesses. Frankly, now that i am fortunate enough to drive both, I can't imagine why people dismiss either one. These are two of the most charismatic, exciting and wonderful cars ever produced. If you can have a matched set, take the plunge.

A few thoughts about the 2.

Appearance: I think each of these cars represents an apex of physical beauty for the marques. They are the last generation not designed in a windtunnel and thus have character and are not characterized by the "sameness" of design that takes over when the tunnel holds such sway. I can't pick a winner here. The Ferrari is better in profile, the 911's best angle is behind or rear 3/4s. I can't pick here. I do get more friendly comments about the Ferrari, but people seem to love both these cars and I never have gotten a nasty comment about either. Interestingly, my wife, who isn't much of a car person vastly prefers the Porsche, because the Ferrari is "too square"

Interior: Both are a little old school ergonomically. The Porsche comes from another era but is screwed together incredibly well. The Ferrari is showing more wear and tear in 19K miles than the Porsche in 45K. One doesn't buy either of these for the interiors. Edge nobody.

Sound: It's a little unfair because the Porsche has Fabspeed and the Ferrari has stock, but damn, they make two of the prettiest noises in the world of cars. The Porsche is gritty, mechanical and barks pretty fiercely. The Ferrari howls like a lost soul in the Inferno. They are both gloriously loud and extroverted. Maybe a slight edge to the Ferrari for making the hairs on my neck stand all the way on end.

Performance: In a straight line, the Turbo walks away from the Ferrari. Horsepower are similar, but the torque from the Turbos is just massive in the 911. In real world driving, the turbo feels much faster, lag is pretty minimal, but what lag there is is shown up by the Ferrari V8. You just need to rev the hell out of it to make it really go. I live in the city, and frankly, winding out a Ferrari to the redline is a good way to go to jail. The 911 can really fly with 3000 rpm, where the Ferrari doesn't even get close until 6000+. The Ferrari feels fast, the 911 still can run with most modern supercars. Edge 911

Handling: Steering is a tossup. Ferrari is a little light but communicates very well, Porsche communicates a little too much with every road imperfection jouncing the wheel. If you let the wheel slip in your hands, the Porsche tracks straight, but it is a little disconcerting. The Ferrari seems a little numb in comparison to the Porsche, but fell of feel compared to almost anything else. The Ferrari is more composed and neutral. The Porsche is intimidating until you get your head around the slow turn in, set the nose, freight train through the apex with unshakeable grip process of going fast. If you like em chuckable, the Ferrari is for you. Edge Ferrari

Fast Road Driving: I've had the 911 a lot longer and am used to the very specific driving style to get it to go well, but frankly, the Ferrari is much easier to drive quickly. It is so spectacularly neutral and very easy to take liberties in. The edge of grip is well defined and when it lets go, it is very neutral. The 911 is hard for me to drive quickly on the road because it's not always possible to brake in a straight line on a bendy country road and the push in the nose transitions pretty quickly to a squirmy rear if you are pressing on. Edge Ferrari

Track: I can't take the Ferrari on the track with its lack of rollover protection, but the 911, which makes me cautious on the road, is the greatest precision tool I've ever driven on a track. I might have just as much fun in the Ferrari, but I'd lap myself if I was in the Porsche. Edge Porsche by a wide margin. (I'm extrapolating here, but once you've driven a well set up 911 on a track, you're hooked forever)

Ownership Proposition. There is a lot of misinformation about how fragile 355s can become. However, if they do go wrong, the repair bills can be terrifying. Curiously, it seems like 993 TTs are now worth about 10-15% more than comparable 355s, perhaps because of the fears about maintenance costs. I've spent a few hundred dollars a year on basic maintenance each year + the usual expenses of tires/brakes/other consumables in the 911 and it has been flawless. Ferrari is too new to know much, but the costs will be significantly higher. I bought the Ferrari at an incredible price, so it may end up being the better deal long term. If you buy smart on either, they won't depreciate much further. Edge Porsche

Conclusions: These two cars represent, in my mind, the perfect moment in time for great drivers cars. They are both plenty fast enough. The performance is fully modern in ways that a 930 Turbo or a 328 or Testarossa are not. They have modern levels of grip and, in the Porsche's case, can run with the latest models on a track and not give up too much ground. While they have fully modern performance, they are also the last generation of cars not to have the electronics to help you drive the car. No flappy paddles, no manettinos, etc. They are both incredibly sexy to look at and fun to drive. I respect the Porsche a little more and smile a little more in the Ferrari. Cliche? I guess there's a reason.

Glad I have both.

Bill ]]> 993 Turbo Forum bkniep http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535777-993tt-vs-355-spider.html MAF Insert http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535761-maf-insert-new-post.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:53:18 GMT Having the symptoms of a flaky MAF sensor again. I'd like to just replace the insert as suggested in many threads, but can't find a source for them. Ideas? ]]> 993 Turbo Forum 911/Q45 http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535761-maf-insert.html <![CDATA[Porsche 450 ECU with K16's???]]> http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535695-porsche-450-ecu-with-k16s-new-post.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:29:56 GMT Hi Rennlisters.....I was just wondering what would happen if you paired up the above components? A standard 450 porsche ECU which expects K24's on a car that actually has K16's....

Any views from those folks that know about this stuff?

cheers Taj. ]]> 993 Turbo Forum Taj http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535695-porsche-450-ecu-with-k16s.html Highest clamping force OEM pressure plate? http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535662-highest-clamping-force-oem-pressure-plate-new-post.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:32:22 GMT Any of you guys know which OEM Porsche Pressure Plate has the greatest clamping force? It can be a Motorsport item as long as it has a Porsche part... Any of you guys know which OEM Porsche Pressure Plate has the greatest clamping force? It can be a Motorsport item as long as it has a Porsche part number on it. It cannot be a multiplate clutch. Single plate only. I know sachs makes some but I have to have something with a Porsche part number. It is a long story I won't bore you with.
Thanks ]]> 993 Turbo Forum sprbxr http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535662-highest-clamping-force-oem-pressure-plate.html <![CDATA[Detailer's Domain: 993 Turbo - Detail]]> http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535634-detailers-domain-993-turbo-detail-new-post.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:23:12 GMT Probably my all time favorite Porsche, I really enjoy doing 993's. They are challenging yet extremely rewarding! This car was in mint condition 9,000 miles! It just needed some polishing and jeweling. As a last step we used Menzerna topped with Swissvax Divine

A thorough interior cleaning to finish it off.

Here is what was done on the car:

Exterior

- Wheels were prepped with P21S Wheel Gel and cleaned up with various brushes
- Tires were spritzed down with P21S Total Autowash and washed down
- Wheel wells were spritzed down with P21S Total Autowash and washed down
- Wash down and rinsed
- Door jambs were cleaned up
- Claying
- Dried
- Paint inspected and measured
- Wheels protected with Swissvax Autobahn
- Tires dressed with Swissvax Pneu
- 2 Step Paint correction
- Inspection with Fenix, 3m Sun Gun, Infratech, and natural sunlight
- Paint sealed with Menzerna
- Swissvax Divine
- Rubber and Plastics Treated
- Exterior windows and mirrors cleaned and sealed
- Exhaust tips cleaned

Interior Detail

- All interior surfaces cleaned and prepared, including glass, and all
vinyl/plastic surfaces.
- Carpets and upholstery vacuumed.
-Leather surfaces are carefully cleaned, prepared and fed using the Leather Master

Product List:
Exterior:
Lusso AutoBathe
Uber Yellow Wash Sponge
Swissvax Clay Bar and Optimum Instant Detail Spray and Gloss Enhancer
Einszett Spray Wax
Menzerna Super Intensive Polish
Menzerna PO85RD
Swissvax Divine

Wheels and tires:
Uber Wheel/Wheel Well/Tire/Engine Kit

Interior:
Uber Interior Kit

Tools:
Infratech 5300
Flex 3403
Makita
Metabo
The Uber Foam Pads (5.5inch)
Tons of "Uber" Microfiber Towels
Uber Drying Towels
Brushes
Gilmour Foam Gun

Let's start with the interior first:
Tommy vacuuming the car

Cleaning and dusting

Leather cleaned /conditioned / protected
Cleaned

Conditioned/Protected

Final wipe down

Jambs cleaned

Gummi on the seals

Final shots

Exterior:
Before shots

Wax on trim

Wash
Gilmour foam gun with Lusso Auto Bath

Dan washing the car

]]> 993 Turbo Forum phil@detailersdomain http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535634-detailers-domain-993-turbo-detail.html Arena 1:18 Scale http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535580-arena-1-18-scale-new-post.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:01:04 GMT No Affiliation ... No Affiliation

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-18-UT-PORSCHE-...item2ea9222051 ]]> 993 Turbo Forum DM993tt http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/993-turbo-forum/535580-arena-1-18-scale.html