DeMan Motorsport GT4 4.25L engine introduction
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DeMan Motorsport GT4 4.25L engine introduction
Hello Rennlisters!
Starting a new thread to introduce our latest 9A1 GT4 based engine, the 4.25L GT4.
As many of you know we designed, produced and introduced the 4.0L GT4 engine parts 3 years ago and have since tested, raced and driven them with over 300 hours on the race track, thousands of miles of street use and countless DE's to refine the tune and test the durability. The 4.0L was available with the added X51 power kit to produce more peak HP but with a little less available TQ as it made power much higher in the rev range. With ZERO failures to date we are proud to introduce our most powerful GT4 engine yet, the 4.25L
As with the 4.0L, the 4.25L engines we produce are built with 2 "personalities", the "Street/Track" and the "Street/Race" versions.
The Street/Track engine was designed with TQ as a priority and plenty of HP, we wanted a motor that pulled strong from 2500 to 6000 RPM, an engine that didn't leave you wanting to "re-gear" the trans just to enjoy the power. Our 4.25L engine in Street/Track trim using the stock side intake runners along with a Carrera S center section and large TB produced 376.2 RWTQ at 5600 rpm and 445.5 Peak RWHP at 6300 rpm. This combination feels like turbo power when rolling into the throttle and an absolute blast to drive. Dyno chart is below with the original GT4 Clubsport dyno runs as comparison. Same car 1 week later.
The "Street/Race" version of the 4.25L engine was developed with maximum peak HP in mind. Utilizing the factory GT3RS intake manifold we mated it to our 4.25L engine to produce 488.5 rwhp at 7900 rpm with 360 rwtq at 6200 rpm. Using the factory intake significantly reduces the cost of the high RPM motor compared to using the X51 kit as we did with the 4.0L engines. This combo is excellent for the street and is perfect for eating up 4.0L GT3RS cars on the track. See the second dyno sheet below comparing our GT4 4.25L Street/Race to a factory stock 2016 4.0L GT3RS.
This is the "Street/Race" compared to the same car as stock before conversion.
Below is a comparison of the 4.25L GT4 "Street/Race" GT4 to a Factory stock 2016 4.0L GT3RS, I'd be betting on the GT4!!
Below are a few pictures of the development process, pistons, intake adapters as well as some shinny engine hardware parts to drool over.
Starting a new thread to introduce our latest 9A1 GT4 based engine, the 4.25L GT4.
As many of you know we designed, produced and introduced the 4.0L GT4 engine parts 3 years ago and have since tested, raced and driven them with over 300 hours on the race track, thousands of miles of street use and countless DE's to refine the tune and test the durability. The 4.0L was available with the added X51 power kit to produce more peak HP but with a little less available TQ as it made power much higher in the rev range. With ZERO failures to date we are proud to introduce our most powerful GT4 engine yet, the 4.25L
As with the 4.0L, the 4.25L engines we produce are built with 2 "personalities", the "Street/Track" and the "Street/Race" versions.
The Street/Track engine was designed with TQ as a priority and plenty of HP, we wanted a motor that pulled strong from 2500 to 6000 RPM, an engine that didn't leave you wanting to "re-gear" the trans just to enjoy the power. Our 4.25L engine in Street/Track trim using the stock side intake runners along with a Carrera S center section and large TB produced 376.2 RWTQ at 5600 rpm and 445.5 Peak RWHP at 6300 rpm. This combination feels like turbo power when rolling into the throttle and an absolute blast to drive. Dyno chart is below with the original GT4 Clubsport dyno runs as comparison. Same car 1 week later.
The "Street/Race" version of the 4.25L engine was developed with maximum peak HP in mind. Utilizing the factory GT3RS intake manifold we mated it to our 4.25L engine to produce 488.5 rwhp at 7900 rpm with 360 rwtq at 6200 rpm. Using the factory intake significantly reduces the cost of the high RPM motor compared to using the X51 kit as we did with the 4.0L engines. This combo is excellent for the street and is perfect for eating up 4.0L GT3RS cars on the track. See the second dyno sheet below comparing our GT4 4.25L Street/Race to a factory stock 2016 4.0L GT3RS.
This is the "Street/Race" compared to the same car as stock before conversion.
Below is a comparison of the 4.25L GT4 "Street/Race" GT4 to a Factory stock 2016 4.0L GT3RS, I'd be betting on the GT4!!
Below are a few pictures of the development process, pistons, intake adapters as well as some shinny engine hardware parts to drool over.
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Rick DeMan
DeMan Motorsport
Upper Nyack, NY
845 727 3070
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www.DeManMotorsport.com
2016 GT4-R
Rick DeMan
DeMan Motorsport
Upper Nyack, NY
845 727 3070
Porsche Sales & Service
Porsche Race services and parts
www.DeManMotorsport.com
Last edited by Rick DeMan; 12-24-2018 at 08:33 AM.
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Please tell me it fails emission, so I don't have to feel so bad about selling my GT4!
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Excuse my lack of reading comphrension, so what is the end result of 4.25L + GT3RS IM + X51 heads?
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No one makes aftermarket cams so the only option for more duration/lift is the x51 heads short of welding and reprofiling stock cams. This build is super exciting, I'm definitely pondering how many liquor stores I need to knockover before Christmas to make this a winter project.
For anyone else thinking about building their engine, Deman Motorsport built my 4L X51 and it has run perfect for 8k+ miles and 6-7 track days running to 8k+ rpm. Stock like driveability, awesome power, no oil usage, and I even get decent mileage on the highway (~24 mpg). Based on my results and given the 4.25L build shares similar crank/stroke specs, I have no doubt this has got to be a monster engine.
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Hahaha, that's what I'm thinking
No one makes aftermarket cams so the only option for more duration/lift is the x51 heads short of welding and reprofiling stock cams. This build is super exciting, I'm definitely pondering how many liquor stores I need to knockover before Christmas to make this a winter project.
For anyone else thinking about building their engine, Deman Motorsport built my 4L X51 and it has run perfect for 8k+ miles and 6-7 track days running to 8k+ rpm. Stock like driveability, awesome power, no oil usage, and I even get decent mileage on the highway (~24 mpg). Based on my results and given the 4.25L build shares similar crank/stroke specs, I have no doubt this has got to be a monster engine.
No one makes aftermarket cams so the only option for more duration/lift is the x51 heads short of welding and reprofiling stock cams. This build is super exciting, I'm definitely pondering how many liquor stores I need to knockover before Christmas to make this a winter project.
For anyone else thinking about building their engine, Deman Motorsport built my 4L X51 and it has run perfect for 8k+ miles and 6-7 track days running to 8k+ rpm. Stock like driveability, awesome power, no oil usage, and I even get decent mileage on the highway (~24 mpg). Based on my results and given the 4.25L build shares similar crank/stroke specs, I have no doubt this has got to be a monster engine.
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I'm not too far North from you . Have you considered hosting another Open House to talk about your amazing work ?
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The street/race sound about right but as you mention having the engine apart why waste the opportunity to do the whole thing..even if it's another extra $10-$12K
Lucky for me I live too far and I can't send the car.....
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That would be interesting to see the results...of course you will have to drop more $$$$.
The street/race sound about right but as you mention having the engine apart why waste the opportunity to do the whole thing..even if it's another extra $10-$12K
Lucky for me I live too far and I can't send the car.....
The street/race sound about right but as you mention having the engine apart why waste the opportunity to do the whole thing..even if it's another extra $10-$12K
Lucky for me I live too far and I can't send the car.....
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