GVA-SFO

..A mule with with Swedish plate (and sweden garage plate deco) !!!!!

Spamming false information really become a common sport.
Like says a Russian guy, (Kasparov) info is a number game : only one is true, and an infinite number are lies.

Rr; ..NEVER trust a badge !

i.e.: for a good time, ..I had a Cayenne Coupe/Cab, see :



and also had a Carrera 4 station wagon :



These are not photoshop, just "real" badges, OK, ..may be not at the right "place" !

tcsracing1

It is amazing how many people are speculating a RS version GT4.

It is wishful thinking all the while the real speculation is for the upcoming GT2....

The Cayman line up will always be smaller then 911 line up.
There will be S, GTS and maybe a GT4.
For a low volume model that more then enough variants.

GVA-SFO

I agree.

Still, imo, there are some chances that a future version of the GT3 could bring on the open roads the architecture of the RSR. (Would be a good "Fefi".)
(If Porsche would like to remain a "real" sport car provider.)

ajw45

I don't think they'll ever threaten the 911/Cayman hierarchy. Not that I'm representative of all Porsche buyers but I prefer the feel of the mid-engine chassis, manual transmission, and no back seats of the Cayman so the only reason I would move to a 911 is for the engine. If the engine package in the next GT4 gets anywhere close to the GT3, I would be thrilled and never think about a 911 again which is great for enthusiasts but I'm not sure that works for Porsche's brand/product team.

Looking back at the introduction of the GT4 in 2016, Porsche priced it just under the 911s and gave it just under 911s power. Easy. The 911 throne was in no danger with the GTS, GT3, and turbo models maintaining a good lead in power (and price). Assuming similar positioning, a next gen GT4 would slot just under a 911s (~$100k/420hp) and a GT4RS might be allowed to challenge the 911 GTS (~$120k/450hp). Tuned x51 3.8 ($), stroked 3.8 to 4.0 ($$), or detuned 500hp 4L ($$$), I think it's safe to say a full fat 500hp 4l ($$$$) is very unlikely.

aussie jimmy

fleetwood mac?

GVA-SFO

?? Not sure I understand !
..Black Magic Woman ?

GT4_Driver

Well, then let's hope that he will get his money back.

aussie jimmy

could be! but more simply, rumours perhaps?

GVA-SFO

I feel quite stupid !
You were extremely fine, ..and, in my side for someone that love this album, it is even more evident. Just no excuse !
Or, well, the Swiss are very slow, it is well know !

GVA-SFO

It is funny to observe that the GT3 are for many people here, ..like the cows are in India!
How many have been sold up to now ? Many thousands.

To drive fast a GT3, I mean driving it real fast, close to the limit, (or basically taking profit of the (fabulous) Mezger engine!), only a VERY SMALL percent of all the GT3 owners have an idea about that.

Still, it is very simple to understand : To drive fast a car that have the engine in the back, you must be able to know (and execute) your breaking points in the accuracy of few feet as, you must trigger (any) turn before releasing any pressure on the brake. If you do brake too early, and have to release a bit of your brake pressure before triggering a turn, all the weight ..goes back where it came from, and your turn is weak, because you have very little weight on the front axe.

Now, to be fast, you must not do “that” (exact brake point) in **one** turn, ..but on every turns.
Which DE, amateur/gentlemen driver is able to pretend being able to do that ?
To me, it is hard to believe that Porsche did rear directive wheels on GT3, ..to try to correct a bit such problem, ..instead of putting the engine at the right place !!
(And this, when on a GT3, ..there are no back seat to preserve at all !!)

Now, if you think that you can all do that, (having each of your brake point within few feet), then this is fine, the GT3 is the car for you. But, I can tell, after 30 years non stop of many 911, and hundred of thousand miles driven, I would never pretend that I’m able to do any of my turn with a braking point that is exact to what this car require.
Now, if you drive a car, that have the engine in the center, life is MUCH MORE easier.
If you have to release a bit your braking, these cars still are “OK” to do a turn, that is not as bad as it is with a car that has engine on the rear.

Or, to me, very simple: Viva el GT4, or : a new GT3 that would have the 911RSR architecture.

Sure, a GT3 makes a lot more effect when it is parked in the front of the terrace of a “fashion bar”, compared to any Boxster or Cayman.
In my opinion, this is the only explanation that I fund, ..for the success of this car !

Ah, btw, have you ever seen a Formula One with the engine way on the back ?
Or more simply, on high end DE’s, good drivers, with Lambo or Fe are just giving very limited chances to (the very rare) good GT3 driver, ..and just no chance at all to any casual GT3 drivers.

Ah, I forgot : if you ask me why I had 911 as daily for 30 year non stop : For me, it was the only good sport car that have back seats. my two boys went to school every morning ..thanks to that. OK, I could have choose a 308GT4, but, to my style, I always prefered the resilience of German engineering.

Oups, ..I’m sure, with this message, I will be here like the one, ..that would eat beef steak ..in India !

Alan C.

GVA-SFO will be right back. He's looking for his Nomex and fire bottle.

GVA-SFO

Yes, I should start to think Nomex, and, may be : do you know if Run flat slicks exists ???

ExMB

What color would you like them in?

GVA-SFO

..Thanks, these would be *great* for my safety : I would love to have a set in white if possible

..But dimensions need to clear my front brakes !
This is not a GT4, ..but my old and loved track toy, ..a Boxster S (not a 911)



Btw, I love your trailer ! (I'm a u-Hall customer !!! ..i.e.: to solve the trailer parking problem is where)

Alan C.

GVA-SFO

I like your honesty and priorities.