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Old 01-18-2024, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by point2point
Learning that the top model at launch will have 600+hp does pique my interest. My current daily driver is a Tesla Model 3 Performance. It does the job very well for my circumstances. If the Macan EV can do everything the Tesla does with better performance and driving dynamics, I’d be willing to trade up. I don’t need it to be the ultimate driver’s car. I have a 997.2 GT3 and 997 GT2 to satisfy that.
What is the Tesla range? Every press is raving that the Macan can do more than 300 miles but it seems all Teslas can do this easily?

Additionally for US: I understand that Tesla might allow access to the charger metwork and this might be game changing for other manufactureres? If this is true then why will they do this?

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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I'm excited about purchasing the new Macan EV, can't wait for the launch.
I understand the sarcasm, honestly I do but we need this to work and to sell - then we get better 911 models. Futhermore it could be a nice city daily.
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Originally Posted by Larson E. Rapp
Exactly. Buying expensive EVs new is a bimodal game... one that should be played only by the extremely wealthy and the extremely dumb.

If you don't meet either criterion, wait a year and get it for almost half off.
Agreed in this. CPO taycans are dropping to almost 50k gbp in the uk. I would get one immediately if I knew there is a solution to change the battery for $10k or so but it seems for now the bill is around $30-50k for a battery and it seems dealers and theird party shop are still not ready to partially fix individuall cells.

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Lease only, because the EV resale market isn't there. Let PCNA take the depreciation hit when they try to resell them.
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Old 01-18-2024, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
What is the Tesla range? Every press is raving that the Macan can do more than 300 miles but it seems all Teslas can do this easily?
Tesla says my Model 3 Performance should travel 315 miles on a full charge. In my driving experience, 280 miles seems closer to the mark.
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Originally Posted by silversurfer6
I understand the sarcasm, honestly I do but we need this to work and to sell - then we get better 911 models. Futhermore it could be a nice city daily.
Oh there's ZERO sarcasm here. I drive a ton for work (like 30k miles a year) and I used to have a Macan as my work beater and spent over $8k on gas in 2022 so I moved on to a Taycan until the Macan comes out because I loved the size and utility of the Macan.
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I’m excited for this. We have historically been a one car family. Until I got the 992. Then the mrs got a q4 etron. Loving having access to both cars. EV is great for going to get takeout or groceries. 992 for any long trips and the weekend fun.
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Originally Posted by nyca
Lease only, because the EV resale market isn't there. Let PCNA take the depreciation hit when they try to resell them.
Do you think Porsche doesn't recognize this? The anticipated depreciation will be baked into the lease price.
(leasing was my initial thought until I came to the obvious conclusion that Porsche knows way more about finance than I do).
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Originally Posted by mb1
Do you think Porsche doesn't recognize this? The anticipated depreciation will be baked into the lease price.
(leasing was my initial thought until I came to the obvious conclusion that Porsche knows way more about finance than I do).
To some degree. But it's a falling knife situation and their residual predictions 3 years out may well fall far short of what the cars will actually sell for as pre-owned. They can't post too low of a residual as buyers would see that and get nervous and lease payments would be huge. They are going to have to eat a subsidy to move these cars, so take advantage of that. They will raise the prices on their other ICE cars to subsidize their EV deliveries. The 911 is going to be a $200K car pretty soon with no significant improvements/upgrades, so Porsche is raking in tons of money.
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Originally Posted by nyca
To some degree. But it's a falling knife situation and their residual predictions 3 years out may well fall far short of what the cars will actually sell for as pre-owned. They can't post too low of a residual as buyers would see that and get nervous and lease payments would be huge. They are going to have to eat a subsidy to move these cars, so take advantage of that. They will raise the prices on their other ICE cars to subsidize their EV deliveries. The 911 is going to be a $200K car pretty soon with no significant improvements/upgrades, so Porsche is raking in tons of money.
That's an interesting theory and I don't have enough leasing experience to opine on it. Unfortunately, I think it's unlikely to apply the early Macan EV adopters, because there are probably enough of us to maintain demand for a while without offering incentives.
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Kind of disappointing that they aren’t keeping the clamshell hood. It was an engineering masterpiece. Guess they have to cut costs with the new model…
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My previous DD was a Tesla Model 3 which was a great daily. I live in Chicagoland and the worse battery performance in really cold weather really wasn't an issue for me (and, I would assume most drivers), as I charged at home and rarely drove more than 75 miles in a day. The only thing I really disliked about the Tesla was the build quality and service quality.

I'm currently driving a Macan T which I think is great. The T is a placeholder DD until the 2nd-3rd production year of the Macan EV. Super pumped for the Macan EV!
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Originally Posted by jmoney99
Kind of disappointing that they aren’t keeping the clamshell hood. It was an engineering masterpiece. Guess they have to cut costs with the new model…
That hood causes no end of grief in the factory, I'll bet. They will be glad to see the last of it.
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Originally Posted by mb1
Do you think Porsche doesn't recognize this? The anticipated depreciation will be baked into the lease price.
(leasing was my initial thought until I came to the obvious conclusion that Porsche knows way more about finance than I do).
Forget about the residual, Porsche's money factor are way too high to lease most of their cars.
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