Brake Dust Expectations
09-07-2020, 06:50 PM
#16
Have you done all of this or are you guessing? My wheels were ceramic coated when I had the rest of the car done. Ceramic coating wheels alone in my area is about $500 which includes full wheel removal and coating the barrel, calipers, and fender liners. I just had my pads replaced at an indie shop for $450 labor. I purchased the pads online for $150 front and rear. Ceramic pads cut down on dust accumulation tremendously. I fully understand that what each person to considers to be "$$$" is subjective but I also wouldn't write off the project as some kind unobtanium either.
This project is hardly unobtaniun but depending on where you live and who does the work it can jump up into the $2k+ price range.
09-08-2020, 12:32 AM
#17
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Changing brake pads on all 4 corners and ceramic coating all 4 wheels is not a walk in the park. Definitely a full days work if not a partial weekend for a DIYer. If you take it to a shop get ready for a big bill $$$. Also even if you change from a semi metallic pad to a ceramic pad you're still going to have brake dust accumulation.
If I'm putting on ceramic pads, there's no need to coat the wheel, they are virtually dustless. Have you ever done a pad change yourself? It really is a walk in the park!
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rasetsu (09-08-2020)
09-08-2020, 12:44 AM
#18
Wow. This really surprises me. I can do a pad change on all four wheels on a Macan S, my Porsche 991S, or my BMW M3 (take your pick) in under an hour if I'm focused on getting a car ready for a track day, 90 minutes if I'm distracted changing the radio station, checking a text, getting a beer and some Doritos. I do have air tools, however. The hardest part is lifting the vehicle. It's about 10 minutes a wheel, add another 7 minutes for rotor swaps to that.
If I'm putting on ceramic pads, there's no need to coat the wheel, they are virtually dustless. Have you ever done a pad change yourself? It really is a walk in the park!
If I'm putting on ceramic pads, there's no need to coat the wheel, they are virtually dustless. Have you ever done a pad change yourself? It really is a walk in the park!
09-08-2020, 12:54 PM
#19
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had shop quote a few options. Endless has MX72 pad available... about 350/axle. these are good pads, similar to the TS20 that you can get from race tech/brembo. low dust, good performance.
09-21-2020, 03:35 PM
#20
Installed Centric Posi Quiet ceramic pads on my GTS today that I purchased on Tire Rack.
Install went pretty smoothly. Pads that came off were OEM with 15k miles. If anyone's interested they happened to be Akebono fronts and Ferodo (Audi stamped) rears. Changed because I was sick of the dust.
Only drove for ~10 miles to bed them so tough to give feedback but these feel almost identical to the stock pads. Maybe a little less bite than stock, but better than I was expecting. There's a hint of dust on the wheels, but I did some hard repeated stops to bed them. The stock pads would have been way dustier. Rotors looked like they were in great shape as expected.
I'll report back once I have some real mileage on them.
Install went pretty smoothly. Pads that came off were OEM with 15k miles. If anyone's interested they happened to be Akebono fronts and Ferodo (Audi stamped) rears. Changed because I was sick of the dust.
Only drove for ~10 miles to bed them so tough to give feedback but these feel almost identical to the stock pads. Maybe a little less bite than stock, but better than I was expecting. There's a hint of dust on the wheels, but I did some hard repeated stops to bed them. The stock pads would have been way dustier. Rotors looked like they were in great shape as expected.
I'll report back once I have some real mileage on them.
09-25-2020, 11:55 AM
#22
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If you don't want brake dust spec PCCBs. My 18 Macan S 20" wheels have much, much less brake dust than my 981 BGTS 20" wheels.
09-26-2020, 04:49 PM
#23
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Installed Centric Posi Quiet ceramic pads on my GTS today that I purchased on Tire Rack.
Install went pretty smoothly. Pads that came off were OEM with 15k miles. If anyone's interested they happened to be Akebono fronts and Ferodo (Audi stamped) rears. Changed because I was sick of the dust.
Only drove for ~10 miles to bed them so tough to give feedback but these feel almost identical to the stock pads. Maybe a little less bite than stock, but better than I was expecting. There's a hint of dust on the wheels, but I did some hard repeated stops to bed them. The stock pads would have been way dustier. Rotors looked like they were in great shape as expected.
I'll report back once I have some real mileage on them.
Install went pretty smoothly. Pads that came off were OEM with 15k miles. If anyone's interested they happened to be Akebono fronts and Ferodo (Audi stamped) rears. Changed because I was sick of the dust.
Only drove for ~10 miles to bed them so tough to give feedback but these feel almost identical to the stock pads. Maybe a little less bite than stock, but better than I was expecting. There's a hint of dust on the wheels, but I did some hard repeated stops to bed them. The stock pads would have been way dustier. Rotors looked like they were in great shape as expected.
I'll report back once I have some real mileage on them.
10-02-2020, 12:30 AM
#24
I can second Centric Posi Quiet. I use them on all my rides and put them on all 4 corners of our GTS without issue.
Whatever brand, ceramic will cut down on wheel cleaning, period. You may notice initial bite is slightly less, but that will be it. I won’t have a car with nice wheels without changing to ceramic pads, when possible.
There’s nothing complicated about the brake job, and I used the manual method for the rear brake parking brake adjustment you can google.
Tire rack is always awesome.
I’m so lazy, and it makes cleaning so much easier.
Whatever brand, ceramic will cut down on wheel cleaning, period. You may notice initial bite is slightly less, but that will be it. I won’t have a car with nice wheels without changing to ceramic pads, when possible.
There’s nothing complicated about the brake job, and I used the manual method for the rear brake parking brake adjustment you can google.
Tire rack is always awesome.
I’m so lazy, and it makes cleaning so much easier.
10-02-2020, 12:37 AM
#25
105.13490 for front, $76
These confirmed to fit my 2018 Macan GTS.
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Mark in Baltimore (10-02-2020)
10-02-2020, 11:23 AM
#26
I put 400 miles on them so far. They are definitely not "dustless" in the way that PCCBs are, but I'd say they produce 50%+ less dust and perform very similar to the stock pads for daily driving. Real world street usage, you would probably never know the difference.
My black sport classics would turn brown with a thick layer of dust after a couple hundred miles on stock pads, you all know what I mean because you're viewing this thread lol.
My wheels are definitely not spotless after 400 miles, you can see where I wiped my finger, but this would be maybe 100 miles on stock pads, not 400. The wheels still look somewhat clean from 10 feet away, where as with the stock pads they were just solid brown. When I wiped my finger the dust was very light and came right off. Not the thick dark brown gunk that you're used to from the stock pads.
Very satisfied.
Last edited by smohr33; 10-02-2020 at 11:25 AM.
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10-04-2020, 01:54 PM
#28
No problem, not trying to steal any thunder, just had them in my Tire Rack account so real easy to get to.
Not to hijack this, but Smohr33 did you re-use the pad backings from the original pads on the back of the centrics?
Not to hijack this, but Smohr33 did you re-use the pad backings from the original pads on the back of the centrics?
10-04-2020, 07:32 PM
#29
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Fit a set of these and watch the brake dust dissapear entirely.
https://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resu...&brand=Akebono
The will give up a small amount of braking distance, i would estimate 5%.
You should not use these on track days if you are inclined to take a Macan S to DE School.
They work!
https://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resu...&brand=Akebono
The will give up a small amount of braking distance, i would estimate 5%.
You should not use these on track days if you are inclined to take a Macan S to DE School.
They work!
10-04-2020, 09:33 PM
#30