Who is without a warrenty?
#16
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2015 S, 55k miles, no warranty, and no surprise costs, just regular maintenance. No oil leaks, no transmission issues, everything works as it should.
I understand the potential repair costs, I also understand there are many Macan owners at 100k+ miles with little to no issues, I'm betting on no warranty being better for me while I own the car. I have a good indy close by with more indys/dealers available in my metro area if needed.
I think if you buy a Macan out of warranty, you should get full service records if possible and probably a pre purchase inspection. A well maintained car should be more reliable for you in the long run!
Good luck to all!
I understand the potential repair costs, I also understand there are many Macan owners at 100k+ miles with little to no issues, I'm betting on no warranty being better for me while I own the car. I have a good indy close by with more indys/dealers available in my metro area if needed.
I think if you buy a Macan out of warranty, you should get full service records if possible and probably a pre purchase inspection. A well maintained car should be more reliable for you in the long run!
Good luck to all!
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No it is not nonsense but I appreciate the respect🙂. My turbo has been down for 5 months. Two nationally known Indies have not been able to fix it. I had to buy the parts from a junkyard because Porsche will not sell them to others. A Porsche dealership in Atlanta Ga wanted $2000 just to do a full diagnosis...non reimbursable ......but told me that it would need a new transmission after a basic eval. I have a 2015 turbo with 67000 miles, bought at that dealership. I was also told no goodwill will be available. I cannot afford a $20000 repair on a car that wholesale will bring around $36000. I wish I had obtained an aftermarket warrenty! Transmission problems are more frequent than one may think.
As cars age the more likely it will need a significant repair. People need to be aware that our engine and transmission are not rebuidable.....no matter how many miles are on them.
The transmission we have is the same transmission that just had a class action settlement award in VW/Audi about 2-3 monthes ago. The Macan has more transmission trouble than any other model Porsche makes.....this is according to 2 major metropolitan Porsche dealerships general service managers. I just received word from an associate that Porsche is taking a second look at transmission claims.......just like they did with the transfer case. There has been that many. What will happen..I don't have a cue. But, enough repair orders have been filed to warrent a look.
Most people that have Macans don't come on the forum, but if one was to collect real world statistics I do believe some would be surprised at the number of repairs that are needed, not just transmissions but other things also. I have seen of course transfer cases, also seen some differentials, wheel bearings, oil leaks, air conditioner problems, air suspension problems, cracked/ hazed headlights, exhaust flex pipes, water pumps, cracked coolant lines, air oil separator, and drive belt tensioners that needed repair. Yes I am around cars a lot.!
Now Macan is not the only car that has their share of problems. Look at others...they too have problems. But, the way Porsche handles repairs is different. Porsche restricts parts needed for some of the repairs needed and they restrict the full diagnostic software needed to mate parts ensuring they will work well with the rest of the car. This forces a person to go to the dealer in some cases. Many people simply do not have access to a good indie that has full PIWIS 2 or 3 capacity.
People are free to believe what they want, and I respect their beliefs. Still, I do believe if you own a Porsche have a warrenty or the cash reserves on hand for a major repair....just in case.
Oh and I could get the name of the DSG specialist that repaired the Macan that was mentioned ...I would love to contact them.
As cars age the more likely it will need a significant repair. People need to be aware that our engine and transmission are not rebuidable.....no matter how many miles are on them.
The transmission we have is the same transmission that just had a class action settlement award in VW/Audi about 2-3 monthes ago. The Macan has more transmission trouble than any other model Porsche makes.....this is according to 2 major metropolitan Porsche dealerships general service managers. I just received word from an associate that Porsche is taking a second look at transmission claims.......just like they did with the transfer case. There has been that many. What will happen..I don't have a cue. But, enough repair orders have been filed to warrent a look.
Most people that have Macans don't come on the forum, but if one was to collect real world statistics I do believe some would be surprised at the number of repairs that are needed, not just transmissions but other things also. I have seen of course transfer cases, also seen some differentials, wheel bearings, oil leaks, air conditioner problems, air suspension problems, cracked/ hazed headlights, exhaust flex pipes, water pumps, cracked coolant lines, air oil separator, and drive belt tensioners that needed repair. Yes I am around cars a lot.!
Now Macan is not the only car that has their share of problems. Look at others...they too have problems. But, the way Porsche handles repairs is different. Porsche restricts parts needed for some of the repairs needed and they restrict the full diagnostic software needed to mate parts ensuring they will work well with the rest of the car. This forces a person to go to the dealer in some cases. Many people simply do not have access to a good indie that has full PIWIS 2 or 3 capacity.
People are free to believe what they want, and I respect their beliefs. Still, I do believe if you own a Porsche have a warrenty or the cash reserves on hand for a major repair....just in case.
Oh and I could get the name of the DSG specialist that repaired the Macan that was mentioned ...I would love to contact them.
As for the DSG specialist, sorry but this is in Mexico City so I doubt it will be of use to you and I'm sure you probably got it sorted by now. If not, search for an Audi mechatronics specialist. They'll know our box.
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My 'not spent on warranty' fund is at about $8k now. Didn't even get a leaky timing cover fixed and no ding on trade-in at a dealership.
A mass market car fortunately has plenty of fixers around for a fair price
A mass market car fortunately has plenty of fixers around for a fair price
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Personally, I would never own a modern Porsche without a factory warranty. Porsche just doesn't build them like the used to anymore. All it takes is one PDK transmission replacement or scored cylinders and you're looking at a $20-$30k repair bill. That's a risk I am not willing to take!
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Just adding a data point here without trying to give advice. I've owned 3 Carreras and one Macan, each for greater than 7 years. I've never purchased an extended warranty, and haven't regretted not doing so, with one caveat. A couple of years ago my 2015 Macan had a catastrophic PDK failure requiring replacement. It was way out of warranty and would have been a 23K bill. The manager of the dealership where I purchased and serviced the car went to bat for me and Porsche replaced it at no cost.
I still don't think I'll purchase an extended warranty in the future. Fortunately, I'm financially able to take the risk. Obviously, the seller of an extended warranty is cumulatively making money on these policies at our expense.
I still don't think I'll purchase an extended warranty in the future. Fortunately, I'm financially able to take the risk. Obviously, the seller of an extended warranty is cumulatively making money on these policies at our expense.
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You're lucky the manager was able to get you a favor a couple years ago, times sure have changes since then... If you had purchased the above quote on each of your vehicles, you would have still been $8,500 in the green with just the PDK failure, not to mention the little repairs and dealer labor along the way.
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By no means is anyone being forced to purchase an extended warranty, and this applies to every purchase you make every day... not sure it is a fair criticism to warranty providers haha
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Originally Posted by Highline-Autos.com
You're lucky the manager was able to get you a favor a couple years ago, times sure have changes since then... If you had purchased the above quote on each of your vehicles, you would have still been $8,500 in the green with just the PDK failure, not to mention the little repairs and dealer labor along the way.
I certainly agree that you or any other vender should make money while providing a service.
Maybe I wasn't paying close attention earlier in the thread, but I take it that you are personally profiting from selling these policies? I guess that would make your opinions completely biased in favor of your own financial gain?
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But I wouldn't have been in the green because I DIDN'T pay the $23k for the transmission.
I certainly agree that you or any other vender should make money while providing a service.
Maybe I wasn't paying close attention earlier in the thread, but I take it that you are personally profiting from selling these policies? I guess that would make your opinions completely biased in favor of your own financial gain?
I certainly agree that you or any other vender should make money while providing a service.
Maybe I wasn't paying close attention earlier in the thread, but I take it that you are personally profiting from selling these policies? I guess that would make your opinions completely biased in favor of your own financial gain?
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2015 nS 105,000 miles I bought 3 years ago with 45k on it with a 2 year Factory CPO warrenty. The only mechanical problem was the exhaust bracket and i just did it myself. All maintenance has been by me. Car has been wonderful and I intend on keeping it for another 100k miles, maybe more. I also have done all the work on my 2004 911 turbo cab and my previous 911's My cars have all been great but if I were to buy a newer one I think I would always have a warrenty due to the problems I read on the forums. Maybe I have been lucky with all my cars over the 42 years of car ownership, and I have had many! At 63 it is getting tougher to climb around under the car but I will keep doing my own maintenance until I am totally unable to anymore. I just dont rust anyone else! I skydive also and hate packing my own parachute but I dont trust anyone else to pack it as well as I do!
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after owning a 2010 Cayman, 2012 Cayman R, 2011 cayenne and a 2016 Macan s I can say that the SUV's are not built to the same standards the sports cars are. I ddi hav e a PDK crater on my 2010 Cayman with 1380 miles on it but it was replaced under warranty no issues, the 2012 Cayman R had a water failure that is. The 2011 Cayenne fell apart with only 64,000 miles on it, everything broke. my 2016 mayans was not much better than my 2011 Cayenne. I just traded in the 2016 Macan s with 44,000 miles on it because it was just n to a reliable car. i would NEVER own a Porsche SUV without a warranty, a sports car is another story. I am also very fortunate enough to be able to pay out of pocket if I had to pay for a catastrophic repair. Porsche has goodwilled a lot of parts and labor for all of my because I service the cars at the dealer and buy the cars new. Porsche takes care of the people who the care of them, it is a business not a charity.
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A solid extended warranty is a smart move on the Macan. My 2017 Macan S had no issues during the warranty period. Around 5 years old with 43k miles the air conditioning stopped blowing cold and ended up being an $8k dash out repair to replace a blower/evaporator unit with cracked tubing allowing a small leak. Dealer covered 50% as goodwill when Porsche didn't step up to cover this. While looking for the cause of a/c failure in the engine bay, the timing cover oil leak was discovered. An indy shop quoted nearly $9k to do this engine out repair, which can now be done without pulling the motor. Will still end up costing around $2k to fix.
Overall it has been solid and a fantastic daily driver, especially with Cobb reflash. Looks great and drives better than any similar vehicle.
Overall it has been solid and a fantastic daily driver, especially with Cobb reflash. Looks great and drives better than any similar vehicle.
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2017 (bought new in 2016) Base Macan with 135k miles on it!
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First post on the Macan forum here.
In my experience, I would never purchase a GM vehicle without an extended warranty 😂
Porsche stable;
’99 996 c2 (100k)
’03 996 TT x50 (115k)
’13 Cayenne Diesel (85k)
’15 Macan S (60k)
To be fair, I invasively wrench on the 911’s regularly. I feel they are economical vehicles if you’re willing to do the work yourself. My DIY path has justified an investment in a four post lift and many tools.
Biggest fear is electronics!
Very satisfying wrenching on pcars. GM….not so much.
Edit… No extended warranties on the pcars, here.
In my experience, I would never purchase a GM vehicle without an extended warranty 😂
Porsche stable;
’99 996 c2 (100k)
’03 996 TT x50 (115k)
’13 Cayenne Diesel (85k)
’15 Macan S (60k)
To be fair, I invasively wrench on the 911’s regularly. I feel they are economical vehicles if you’re willing to do the work yourself. My DIY path has justified an investment in a four post lift and many tools.
Biggest fear is electronics!
Very satisfying wrenching on pcars. GM….not so much.
Edit… No extended warranties on the pcars, here.
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