Who is without a warrenty?
#1
Who is without a warrenty?
I am just curious concerning how many people choose to keep their Macan without any warrenty....porsche or other? Let's face it, the cost of repairs continue to climb. A car is a mechanical object and is subject to wear and tear so at some point things will need repair or replacement. Alternators at $1000+, oil leaks that are very expensive to repair by the dealer, possible transmission problems, turbo problems, water pumps, etc etc. Is the Macan a long term car or is it wise to sell after the warrenty is up?
One thought does cross my mind....what's left of it🙂. There are some good Macans up for sale now in the mid $20's....so if a repair cost of $10K could develope (which is not that rare) does it make sense to buy that car? If not, then what happens....do these Macan's become unsellable? There are a lot of Macan's out there and I do wonder what will happen to them.
One thought does cross my mind....what's left of it🙂. There are some good Macans up for sale now in the mid $20's....so if a repair cost of $10K could develope (which is not that rare) does it make sense to buy that car? If not, then what happens....do these Macan's become unsellable? There are a lot of Macan's out there and I do wonder what will happen to them.
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All our seven vehicles are without warranties. LIfe, itself, comes without a warranty. There are only a few things to consider: You either have the ability to maintain the vehicles yourself or the money to have someone else to do it...or a little bit of both. Otherwise, get a warranty.
#3
Aftermarket parts, resourceful individuals, independent mechanics, and mechanically inclined new owners will keep these cars running.
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This is old data but I remember speaking with an engineer at a major automobile manufacturer a few years ago. According to this gentleman auto parts in general, excluding engines and drivetrains, are designed to last around 30k to 40k miles in mind with a specified safety factor. A good majority of these parts will last far past that, as we all have seen.
As mentioned above, affordability is always key, either by purchasing an extended warranty or willingness to pay out of pocket for repairs. I haven’t kept a car past its warranty period in a while but if I do, I will not opt for the extended warranty. How many extended warranty companies have gone out of business? Think Las Vegas-the house always wins.
As mentioned above, affordability is always key, either by purchasing an extended warranty or willingness to pay out of pocket for repairs. I haven’t kept a car past its warranty period in a while but if I do, I will not opt for the extended warranty. How many extended warranty companies have gone out of business? Think Las Vegas-the house always wins.
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#5
Since the Macan is one of the most expensive SUV's to repair, (and actually does have the most expensive SUV dealership transmission replacement cost in the US,) cost to maintain it may become prohibited as it stands. This may be an opportunity for enterprising folks to develope the skills and purschase the equipment needed to maintain the Macan. The Macan is a good car but the serviceability currently is not designed for long term ownership. Hope the service sector will step up and Porsche helps with parts and the software needed.
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Since the Macan is one of the most expensive SUV's to repair, (and actually does have the most expensive SUV dealership transmission replacement cost in the US,) cost to maintain it may become prohibited as it stands. This may be an opportunity for enterprising folks to develope the skills and purschase the equipment needed to maintain the Macan. The Macan is a good car but the serviceability currently is not designed for long term ownership. Hope the service sector will step up and Porsche helps with parts and the software needed.
Last edited by YoshiV819; 06-28-2022 at 05:03 PM.
#7
Maybe not my mind but I did lose approx $18,000 in equity lol!
But you are right, I know all that now, I really didn't when I first jumped in.I thought I could fix just about anything and if I couldn't I had friends that could.
Life is full of lessons. I did not do my due diligence back in 2017 when I got my first one.I will never forget.
But you are right, I know all that now, I really didn't when I first jumped in.I thought I could fix just about anything and if I couldn't I had friends that could.
Life is full of lessons. I did not do my due diligence back in 2017 when I got my first one.I will never forget.
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I bought a 2017 Macan S with 50,000 miles on it December of 2020 for $33,000. It was just out of warranty when I bought it. Believing that Porsche engines were supposedly reliable, I didn’t opt to get an aftermarket warranty. I had a slush fund of $5,000 set aside for what I expected to be the occasional repair of an item like a fuel pump or whatnot.
Anyways, about 10 months into ownership, my Macan had a catastrophic engine failure and multiple mechanics told me I needed to completely replace the engine. Porsche wanted about $30,000 for a new engine and used engines go about $12,000-$15,000. Labor costs are about $5,000.
I absolutely loved my Macan S. It was sporty enough to satiate my thirst for a sports car yet comfortable and practical enough to be an enjoyable road-tripper with the family on board. I would love to own another Macan in the future, but I’d never do so without a warranty. (The same is true for any expensive vehicle, not just a Porsche)
Anyways, about 10 months into ownership, my Macan had a catastrophic engine failure and multiple mechanics told me I needed to completely replace the engine. Porsche wanted about $30,000 for a new engine and used engines go about $12,000-$15,000. Labor costs are about $5,000.
I absolutely loved my Macan S. It was sporty enough to satiate my thirst for a sports car yet comfortable and practical enough to be an enjoyable road-tripper with the family on board. I would love to own another Macan in the future, but I’d never do so without a warranty. (The same is true for any expensive vehicle, not just a Porsche)
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Since the Macan is one of the most expensive SUV's to repair, (and actually does have the most expensive SUV dealership transmission replacement cost in the US,) cost to maintain it may become prohibited as it stands. This may be an opportunity for enterprising folks to develope the skills and purschase the equipment needed to maintain the Macan. The Macan is a good car but the serviceability currently is not designed for long term ownership. Hope the service sector will step up and Porsche helps with parts and the software needed.
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Macan purchased new in 2016 (17 my) still trucking with 135k here.
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My warranty be up soon ie 2018 gts end of year I suppose but have only 13k miles on it. Only for long road trips other than that stays garaged. Should I worry? Love the car though.
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No it is not nonsense but I appreciate the respect🙂. My turbo has been down for 5 months. Two nationally known Indies have not been able to fix it. I had to buy the parts from a junkyard because Porsche will not sell them to others. A Porsche dealership in Atlanta Ga wanted $2000 just to do a full diagnosis...non reimbursable ......but told me that it would need a new transmission after a basic eval. I have a 2015 turbo with 67000 miles, bought at that dealership. I was also told no goodwill will be available. I cannot afford a $20000 repair on a car that wholesale will bring around $36000. I wish I had obtained an aftermarket warrenty! Transmission problems are more frequent than one may think.
As cars age the more likely it will need a significant repair. People need to be aware that our engine and transmission are not rebuidable.....no matter how many miles are on them.
The transmission we have is the same transmission that just had a class action settlement award in VW/Audi about 2-3 monthes ago. The Macan has more transmission trouble than any other model Porsche makes.....this is according to 2 major metropolitan Porsche dealerships general service managers. I just received word from an associate that Porsche is taking a second look at transmission claims.......just like they did with the transfer case. There has been that many. What will happen..I don't have a cue. But, enough repair orders have been filed to warrent a look.
Most people that have Macans don't come on the forum, but if one was to collect real world statistics I do believe some would be surprised at the number of repairs that are needed, not just transmissions but other things also. I have seen of course transfer cases, also seen some differentials, wheel bearings, oil leaks, air conditioner problems, air suspension problems, cracked/ hazed headlights, exhaust flex pipes, water pumps, cracked coolant lines, air oil separator, and drive belt tensioners that needed repair. Yes I am around cars a lot.!
Now Macan is not the only car that has their share of problems. Look at others...they too have problems. But, the way Porsche handles repairs is different. Porsche restricts parts needed for some of the repairs needed and they restrict the full diagnostic software needed to mate parts ensuring they will work well with the rest of the car. This forces a person to go to the dealer in some cases. Many people simply do not have access to a good indie that has full PIWIS 2 or 3 capacity.
People are free to believe what they want, and I respect their beliefs. Still, I do believe if you own a Porsche have a warrenty or the cash reserves on hand for a major repair....just in case.
Oh and I could get the name of the DSG specialist that repaired the Macan that was mentioned ...I would love to contact them.
As cars age the more likely it will need a significant repair. People need to be aware that our engine and transmission are not rebuidable.....no matter how many miles are on them.
The transmission we have is the same transmission that just had a class action settlement award in VW/Audi about 2-3 monthes ago. The Macan has more transmission trouble than any other model Porsche makes.....this is according to 2 major metropolitan Porsche dealerships general service managers. I just received word from an associate that Porsche is taking a second look at transmission claims.......just like they did with the transfer case. There has been that many. What will happen..I don't have a cue. But, enough repair orders have been filed to warrent a look.
Most people that have Macans don't come on the forum, but if one was to collect real world statistics I do believe some would be surprised at the number of repairs that are needed, not just transmissions but other things also. I have seen of course transfer cases, also seen some differentials, wheel bearings, oil leaks, air conditioner problems, air suspension problems, cracked/ hazed headlights, exhaust flex pipes, water pumps, cracked coolant lines, air oil separator, and drive belt tensioners that needed repair. Yes I am around cars a lot.!
Now Macan is not the only car that has their share of problems. Look at others...they too have problems. But, the way Porsche handles repairs is different. Porsche restricts parts needed for some of the repairs needed and they restrict the full diagnostic software needed to mate parts ensuring they will work well with the rest of the car. This forces a person to go to the dealer in some cases. Many people simply do not have access to a good indie that has full PIWIS 2 or 3 capacity.
People are free to believe what they want, and I respect their beliefs. Still, I do believe if you own a Porsche have a warrenty or the cash reserves on hand for a major repair....just in case.
Oh and I could get the name of the DSG specialist that repaired the Macan that was mentioned ...I would love to contact them.
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#15
I have 56K on my almost 8 year old 2015 Macan S. I bought it new in Aug 2014. I had Geico mechanical break down insurance which covered the car B2B to 7 years/100K after the OWM warranty expired. I had a warranty inspection done at 6 1/2 years and they found the timing cover leak. 5K repair covered and the car has been fine since. I bought a 2021 911S about a year ago so have put maybe 2K on the Macan in the last 12 months. I hope to get 10-12 years out of but if I end up with a 15K repair bill, I will reassess.
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