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Old 06-06-2023, 02:12 PM
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Default Buying decision - 2022 Macan S vs. 2018 GTS

Hey all - I'm looking at picking up a used Macan for our Forida home and I've found a couple of nice ones.

The 2022 is Volcano Grey Metallic, new style, new interior soft-touch buttons. Anyone have regrets on this color? It looks beautifully dark and mysterious. A good "fly under the radar" kind of color.

The 2018 is what appears to be a darker blue, but with old style buttons etc... It's got the GTS interior which my provious one had as well. Very sharp.

I think performance wise they'd be about the same.

Thoughts anyone? TIA.
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I just did a remodel on my 17 Macan because it was looking a bit dated. There should be a new Macan introduced in 2024/25. I'd take the newer model, especially given the 22 S has more power than the 18 GTS. Just make sure you get AS and chrono.
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I would go with the 2022 S.
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Originally Posted by Wilder
I just did a remodel on my 17 Macan because it was looking a bit dated. There should be a new Macan introduced in 2024/25. I'd take the newer model, especially given the 22 S has more power than the 18 GTS. Just make sure you get AS and chrono.
AS = Air Suspension?

And the 22 doesn't appear to have Sport Chrono. Does this mean Sport or Sport Plus settings?



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Having owned both a 2018 Macan GTS and a 2022 Macan S, I would recommend the 2022 S and its newer goodies. The horsepower of the newer S will be about the same as the older GTS engine. The only differences I could tell between the two was that the GTS had a firmer ride and was lower in ride height while the S seemed lighter and more nimble in handling.
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In addition to not having SC, the 22 does not have sports exhaust. I do like the AS
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Originally Posted by Zeus993
AS = Air Suspension?

And the 22 doesn't appear to have Sport Chrono. Does this mean Sport or Sport Plus settings?
Yes, air suspension. I believe the Sport Chrono has the selector on the steering wheel in the newer models. To me, air and sports chrono turn the Macan into a sports sedan on stilts. Not sure if that's important to you. I wouldn't own one without it.
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Originally Posted by Wilder
Yes, air suspension. I believe the Sport Chrono has the selector on the steering wheel in the newer models. To me, air and sports chrono turn the Macan into a sports sedan on stilts. Not sure if that's important to you. I wouldn't own one without it.
Before I found mine I had already had a list of Must Haves. AS, Chrono, 18-way seats and NO trailer hitch. That was in ‘18.

This is her today

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Old 06-06-2023, 06:34 PM
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2022 S - 4 years newer - when you go to sell will pay off!

Always have to consider, miles, condition, service records, # of prior owners, known vs unknown history, options you can live without, color, interior upgraded leather, seats etc. all will factor into your buying decision
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Agree with most of the others, 22S is a better buy than a 2018 GTS all else equal.

Good luck!
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Definitely pick up the new Macan S. The rear lightbar is a must have and really stands out at night compared to the basic two rear lights on the 2018. The new Macan larger screen makes the 2018 feel outdated. I picked up a 2021 over a 2022 Macan just because I want the physical buttons instead of the soft touch screen buttons.

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Originally Posted by Wilder
Yes, air suspension. I believe the Sport Chrono has the selector on the steering wheel in the newer models. To me, air and sports chrono turn the Macan into a sports sedan on stilts. Not sure if that's important to you. I wouldn't own one without it.
Are you talking about air suspension or PASM?

AS makes the Macan less sporty, as it's a comfort option designed to limit the effect of road imperfection; the side effect of AS is to reduce road feel, which is the reason that it makes the Macan less sporty. AS is also routinely used by every other manufacturer, such as Lexus, to give additional comfort to their less sporty models where road feel is not a priority. The reason that AS is a standard option on the GTS is because the GTS comes with 21" wheels, and 21" wheels make the ride very firm/harsh, which is then neutralized by AS. This is also the reason that the base Macan is almost never equipped with AS, as the base comes with 19" wheels, which don't cause the same harshness as the 21" wheels.

There are also reliability and maintenance issues with AS, as it's an expensive wear and tear item and, as a result, causes knowledgeable buyers to stay away from it down the road.

On the other hand, PASM, which you can have with steel springs (PASM with steel springs is standard on the T and the S and is optional on the base) improves cornering stability, so you are able to push the vehicle further on a twisty road and/or sharp corners.

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Originally Posted by SnakeEyesB
Are you talking about air suspension or PASM?

AS makes the Macan less sporty, as it's a comfort option designed to limit the effect of road imperfection; the side effect of AS is to reduce road feel, which is the reason that it makes the Macan less sporty. AS is also routinely used by every other manufacturer, such as Lexus, to give additional comfort to their less sporty models where road feel is not a priority. The reason that AS is a standard option on the GTS is because the GTS comes with 21" wheels, and 21" wheels make the ride very firm/harsh, which is then neutralized by AS. This is also the reason that the base Macan is almost never equipped with AS, as the base comes with 19" wheels, which don't cause the same harshness as the 21" wheels.

There are also reliability and maintenance issues with AS, as it's an expensive wear and tear item and, as a result, causes knowledgeable buyers to stay away from it down the road.

On the other hand, PASM, which you can have with steel springs (PASM with steel springs is standard on the T and the S and is optional on the base) improves cornering stability, so you are able to push the vehicle further on a twisty road and/or sharp corners.
These comments about the AS hurting performance are wrong.
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Originally Posted by #1SomeGuy
These comments about the AS hurting performance are wrong.
I agree. Having owned four M3's over the years with full suspension replacements/upgrades, THAT is what an M car is all about. An edge. But, a Macan? It's not a twisty cornering demon. It's an SUV! And a heavy one at that. It's not an M car or 911. Regarding AS reliability, at 65K and still running ever so smoothly, the AS with Chrono and PASM is enough for my needs. Now, if I want to act really stupid, I'd drive my other car....



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Originally Posted by #1SomeGuy
These comments about the AS hurting performance are wrong.
What do you mean by "hurting performance?" AS absorbs road imperfections, so you don't feel potholes, bumps, etc... quite as much, which is what people like about it. By definition, the downside of insulating you from all those imperfection is the fact that you cannot feel the road the same way, which is the part that makes any vehicle equipped with AS less sporty, as you just don't receive the same feedback.

This isn't a good or a bad thing. It all depends on your preference.

Again, however, the part that a lot of people do not realize is that on a vehicle with the exact same suspension, your choice of tires and wheels affects your ride quality quite a bit. Since 21" wheels have smaller sidewalls, the tires end up being stiffer and don't absorb road imperfections nearly as well as the ones that are put on the 19" wheel. This is the primary reason that you won't find many base Macans with AS, as with 19" wheels, people just don't have the same complaints about firmness/harshness as they do with 21" ones.

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