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I don't want to put the route on open forum but it usually goes something like this...meet Esso station on Denbigh Rd and head off about 11 to Cerrigydrudion on the B5105. Then B4501 until it meets the A543 to Pentrefoelas. We normally stop for a chat/pics in the carpark then head down the A5 for a few hundred meters and go south on the B4407. we then pick up the B4391 and A4212 towards Bala, turning off the 4212 onto the B4501 back towards Cerrigydrudion. Basically a big loop before we stop for a lunch etc. After lunch we decide a new run and drive some more...
Its a nice group and always someone new coming along so you will be very welcome.