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Old 10-24-2023, 06:42 AM
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Sad if it's confirmed that there will not be a Sport Turismo, I think more than half of the Panamera's I see driving here in Belgium are ST's.
Makes me feel a little better on getting the 2023 model in ST, as it will be the last one.
Old 10-24-2023, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by allroadusa
Sorry to say your dealer is wrong : Worldwide, the ST is less than 10% of all Panamera sold....30% in Germany, the country where the ST is most popular...
This is more in line w/ what I have heard. ST sales were low in general, especially in the USA.
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Let's not forget the ST came out a model year after the 971 was introduced. The Taycan also had the ST come out after the sedan and CT versions.
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Old 10-24-2023, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by exoOw
Sad if it's confirmed that there will not be a Sport Turismo, I think more than half of the Panamera's I see driving here in Belgium are ST's.
Makes me feel a little better on getting the 2023 model in ST, as it will be the last one.
See, same here. STs dominate the 971 generation of Panameras here.

Actually, my new ST will be a MY '24. December manufacture date but they call it a MY24 in their system. This time, I'm ordering all the goodies that I went cheap on with my first (Sport Exhaust, Rear Axle Steering, ventilated seats, 4-seat option no middle seat in rear and 21" winter wheels).
Old 10-24-2023, 02:59 PM
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I can see STs being more dominant in European countries, thats how its always been across all the big brands.
SUVs dominate in the US, people just jump to that instead of going for a wagon. I've never seen a ST on the road here.
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Old 10-24-2023, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimuel
Let's not forget the ST came out a model year after the 971 was introduced. The Taycan also had the ST come out after the sedan and CT versions.
I am hearing Porsche has officially stated no more ST in the 971.3 But things can always change.
Old 10-24-2023, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nickshu
I am hearing Porsche has officially stated no more ST in the 971.3 But things can always change.
What about Executive?
Old 10-24-2023, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PorscheLover1963
What about Executive?
Don't know....my source is a friend who works for Porsche NA. I can ask him.
Old 10-24-2023, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nickshu
Don't know....my source is a friend who works for Porsche NA. I can ask him.
Please do. I'm really curious to see if they continue the Executives. I think they will, just perhaps not in NA.
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Originally Posted by MKC91
Discontinuing the Sport Turismo -- okay, I've got a classic in my hands.
same!
Old 10-28-2023, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PorscheLover1963
What about Executive?
Some say the new Panamera will have a long wheel base as standard… meaning all Panamera will be Executive (>5.2m)
Old 10-28-2023, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ST4S
same!
Agree - with a 2023 4EHST so happy!
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Originally Posted by B Russ
Who the fugg is going 180 mph anyway


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Originally Posted by MKC91
Discontinuing the Sport Turismo -- okay, I've got a classic in my hands.
Truly sad. I was hoping that there would be a new ST in a Turbo GT trim but I am glad I bought mine before the decision to kill it was made. I hate the RS6 and had a w213 e63 estate and it was meh. Also I think it's killed in NA. I suppose I would have to find a second hand GTC4lusso or just give up on estate cars here in North America if something happens to mine.



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