Sales 360; in two weeks

MJones · 11-03-2009, 02:39 PM

Not a bad start

Targa Tim · 11-03-2009, 03:33 PM

more pana turbo sales than I expect.

Meister Fahrer · 11-04-2009, 12:33 AM

Thanks -- it would be interesting to see sales by state or even metro area.

I'm not too surprised about the Turbo sales because there has been a long build up to launch.

I think it's still going to take a while til folks really "get it" with this car.

Bob Rouleau · 11-04-2009, 01:27 AM

Local dealers up here are selling them fast. Astonishing demand for the first week or two after local launch. Sales of high end cars did not tank in Canada, March April and May 2009 were record! months for BMW and Mercedes - not sure about Porsche though. Mercedes has some amazing "incentives" mind you ...

PogueMoHone · 11-04-2009, 02:09 AM

When more people have the chance to hang the tail out on the Turbo (like we did at Candlestick last weekend), the sales will explode.

The car is amazing (and yes I was one of those down on the looks and 4 seats). Biases are sometimes just that and they get in the way of great decisions.

You have to put the "negatives" in perspective. But as a reasonable driver (no track jockey) I cannot imagine anyone not liking this car. However, if it outside their economic parameters I can see why they would want to minimize it.

As always, with advice, consider the source and motivations

FlatSix911 · 11-04-2009, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MJones

Not a bad start

Not buying it ... the stats reflect only early buyers with more money than brains

Wait until 3 months from now and the sales will be down ... consistent with the 30% YTD decline.

PogueMoHone · 11-04-2009, 02:55 AM

^

Have you driven it?

FlatSix911 · 11-04-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PogueMoHone

^
Have you driven it?

Yep - last month at Pebble ...

Tacet-Conundrum · 11-04-2009, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FlatSix911

Not buying it ... the stats reflect only early buyers with more money than brains

Wait until 3 months from now and the sales will be down ... consistent with the 30% YTD decline.

So you are saying that like the H2, once the people who wanted one got one then sales will drop off?

I for one will be waiting until after I get a 2010 TT before I get a used Panamera. Still weighing my options but I'm leaning toward a Turbo and let someone take the hit on depreciation.

Blade-MD · 11-04-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FlatSix911

Not buying it ... the stats reflect only early buyers with more money than brains

Wait until 3 months from now and the sales will be down ... consistent with the 30% YTD decline.

I would agree. I took my CTT in for service and the Panamera turbo was still in the showroom from three weeks ago. Compared to the Cayenne launch 6 1/2 years ago this is pretyy pitiful. At that time there were no CTT's available for 6 months. Panamera is a pretty niche market. Bring the price down to around a 100k and you'll see them move, albeit slowly. These sales reflect simply people that want to have the newest "toy".

Tacet-Conundrum · 11-04-2009, 10:13 PM

Don't think the current economy has anything to do with Porsche moving more of the Panameras?

1Carnut · 11-07-2009, 06:55 PM

I have seen this happen with new models many times over the last 25 years, with everything from the first NSX to the remodeled SL. There are always pent up buyers (and I think the majority of those 360 went to 3 or 4 areas), that have been waiting for this car, and have to have the lastest of whatever is out there. I'd bet the numbers are not a sign of anything other than that.

Bluehinder · 11-07-2009, 10:08 PM

My dealer has only sold one January allocation, has several builds in allocation with no buyers. One on the floor with no takers.

Franklin229 · 11-07-2009, 10:24 PM

Folks who like to be first on the block will buy-then it will sit.

Overdraft · 11-07-2009, 11:00 PM

Was shocked to see 911 Turbo sales VS. Non Turbo sales be so similar in numbers...thought the split would be 1 to 4 or 5 Turbo v non Turbo - don't know what that means...?

11-03-2009, 03:33 PM	#2
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11-04-2009, 12:33 AM	#3
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11-04-2009, 01:27 AM	#4
Bob Rouleau Administrator Still plays with cars. Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,831	Local dealers up here are selling them fast. Astonishing demand for the first week or two after local launch. Sales of high end cars did not tank in Canada, March April and May 2009 were record! months for BMW and Mercedes - not sure about Porsche though. Mercedes has some amazing "incentives" mind you ... __________________ ..Bob Frozen North Rep & ceramic rotor roaster Hey, wait for me! racing.

11-04-2009, 02:09 AM	#5
PogueMoHone Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,596	When more people have the chance to hang the tail out on the Turbo (like we did at Candlestick last weekend), the sales will explode. The car is amazing (and yes I was one of those down on the looks and 4 seats). Biases are sometimes just that and they get in the way of great decisions. You have to put the "negatives" in perspective. But as a reasonable driver (no track jockey) I cannot imagine anyone not liking this car. However, if it outside their economic parameters I can see why they would want to minimize it. As always, with advice, consider the source and motivations __________________ Never argue with idiots - first they drag you down to their level, then they beat you with experience. *********************** Sponsored by: Póg mo thóin Adventures

11-04-2009, 02:55 AM	#7
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11-04-2009, 10:13 PM	#11
Tacet-Conundrum User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bakersfield Holmes, ODELE CABRONCITO!!! Posts: 111	Don't think the current economy has anything to do with Porsche moving more of the Panameras?

11-07-2009, 06:55 PM	#12
1Carnut User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 304	I have seen this happen with new models many times over the last 25 years, with everything from the first NSX to the remodeled SL. There are always pent up buyers (and I think the majority of those 360 went to 3 or 4 areas), that have been waiting for this car, and have to have the lastest of whatever is out there. I'd bet the numbers are not a sign of anything other than that.

11-07-2009, 10:08 PM	#13
Bluehinder User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 443	My dealer has only sold one January allocation, has several builds in allocation with no buyers. One on the floor with no takers.

11-07-2009, 10:24 PM	#14
Franklin229 Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 980	Folks who like to be first on the block will buy-then it will sit. __________________ -'97 Black/Black C2S Sport Seats, RS MMounts, LWF/Clutch, BK Truss Bar, Strut Brace, Short Shift, PSS-9's, M030 Sways, SuperCups, Re-Flash, Lot's of Zaino -Santacruz Bullit -Landrover LR3-Bullit Hauler

11-07-2009, 11:00 PM	#15
Overdraft User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 47	Was shocked to see 911 Turbo sales VS. Non Turbo sales be so similar in numbers...thought the split would be 1 to 4 or 5 Turbo v non Turbo - don't know what that means...?