Rennlist Discussion Forums   classifieds | membership | rennlist | photo album    
sponsors | upload photo | chat | marketplace    
 


Go Back   Rennlist Discussion Forums > Water Cooled Technical Discussion Areas > Porsche Cayenne Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-23-2007, 01:18 PM   #16
ltc
Super Moderator
 
ltc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: RL Moderator Bunker
Posts: 19,597
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rome View Post
Details, please, o-learned one.
o-learned one? Who me?

What you described is the Cayenne's version of the Microsoft Blue Screen of Death.....NEVER a good thing.
I would have suggested that you bring it immediately to the dealer to see exactly how many codes were thrown and from there try to determine which module(s) went AWOL.

They're actually programmed to scare the sh!t out of the owners right before they cross the line into 'nakedness'.....helps with new vehicle sales.

Happy Trails
__________________
...Lewis
ltc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2007, 12:44 PM   #17
rome
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
rome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,425
Default

Only two codes thrown-- I don't have the numbers off hand but I recall they were in the 300 series.

The tech showed me the corresponding definitons and one was a misfire fourth cyl. and one was a "random" misfire which evidently is automatically triggered by the first one.

Truck has been running great since I picked it up.

We shall see, I guess.
__________________
'06 Cayenne S -- Basalt Black/Black Full Leather
'97 993 C2S-- Ocean Blue/Cashmere
rome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2007, 01:53 PM   #18
ltc
Super Moderator
 
ltc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: RL Moderator Bunker
Posts: 19,597
Default

__________________
...Lewis
ltc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2007, 05:56 PM   #19
Toby Pennycuff
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Toby Pennycuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 1,469
Send a message via MSN to Toby Pennycuff
Default

40K service on my 2006 Cayenne Turbo. I told my dealer that the engine has a rough idle. 40K service calls for new plugs which were changed. After checking the coils, all 8 were replaced under warranty! See, be nice to your dealer and they will take care of you!
__________________
Toby Pennycuff
Dallas, TX

Official Team Towing Service - "Hey, Wait For Me" Racing Team
Cayenne Turbo - the faster "sorta" official Wrecker - "Hey, Wait For Me" Racing Team

'04 The Racers Group GT3 RSR Le Mans Sponsor

1968 911S PCA "D" Racecar rebodied as a 1973 Carrera RS - "Tweety Bird"
1979 Porsche 930 Petrol Blue ("unofficial" ImagineAuto Stage III machine)
2006 BMW530i Alpine White
2008 Porsche Cayenne GTS - GTS Red on Black
Toby Pennycuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2007, 06:01 PM   #20
racer_65
User
 
racer_65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 238
Default

My car was just taken in and diagnosed with this problem. It's a '06 with only 14K miles. They replaced the cracked coil pack with the updated part.
racer_65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2007, 07:01 PM   #21
littlejt1
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
littlejt1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 263
Default

So those of us that are "nekked" or with third party warranties...any advice from anyone?

I need to run by my dealer for another issues...but scared to ask them to hook up to their "diagnostic equipment" i.e. cash register.

Guess the big question is, will they replace coils if you are out of warranty?
__________________
___________________________________________________
Jeff
'88 951 (Guards Red) - Currently on jackstands.
Spec Stage I Clutch
Chips...anyone got salsa?

2004 Cayenne S (Jarama Beige)
-replaced: Coils, driveshaft, transmission control valve module.

'78 Avanti II- all original
'84 Avanti II - restoration nearly done

Texas Greaseslingers
Houston Chapter
littlejt1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2007, 10:38 PM   #22
ltc
Super Moderator
 
ltc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: RL Moderator Bunker
Posts: 19,597
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by littlejt1 View Post
So those of us that are "nekked" or with third party warranties...any advice from anyone??
Suicide is a noble way out of Cayenne ownership. Please remember to share it on Youtube with the forum members....it's always nice to play it during the wake.

Quote:
Originally Posted by littlejt1 View Post
Guess the big question is, will they replace coils if you are out of warranty?
And the answer is (from page 1 of this post)

"Remedial action:
Replace all installed bar ignition modules (Part No. 948.602.104.00 or 948.602.104.01 ) with modified bar ignition modules (Part No. 948.602.104.03).
Only replace bar ignition module if it was diagnosed as faulty."

"On vehicles that are still under warranty, the replacement of all bar ignition modules (coils) with Part No. 948.602.104.00 or 948.602.104.01 with bar ignition modules (coils) with Part No. 948.602.104.03 can be claimed under warranty using the following damage code: Damage Code 2820 12 000"

"On vehicles that are no longer covered by warranty, we also recommend that you replace all bar ignition modules (coils) with Part No. 948.602.104.00 or 948.602.104.01 following consultation with the customer with bar ignition modules (coils) with Part No. 948.602.104.03 in the event of a complaint.

Translation of consultation with the customer:
You (the customer) will be asked to hand over your money.
They (PCNA) will be wearing a mask and holding a gun.
__________________
...Lewis
ltc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2007, 02:13 AM   #23
racer_65
User
 
racer_65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 238
Default

I'm still wondering when did they make the updated part available? Was it very recent?

My car has a March '06 build date, which still has the problem. The car drives noticeably better now. With the new coils, it no longer hesitates at around 30 mph.
racer_65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2007, 12:55 AM   #24
Vino
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by littlejt1 View Post
So those of us that are "nekked" or with third party warranties...any advice from anyone?

I need to run by my dealer for another issues...but scared to ask them to hook up to their "diagnostic equipment" i.e. cash register.

Guess the big question is, will they replace coils if you are out of warranty?
We will be naked in 2 weeks

I don't know if we'll buy the warranty or not, we'll see..
Anyway, I went through a few websites and found our coils here-

http://www2.9parts.com/parts/parts1/...+Coil&dp=false

$20.95 per coil

I'll give them a call in a week or two and see what part# they wear.

I have taken the engine covers off to expose the coils, passenger side could be a pain with the engine mount bar in the way. Otherwise maybe a 2 hour job max for the DIY mechanic including plugs.
__________________
04 Cayenne Turbo
87 Carrera Cab
Vino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 04:37 PM   #25
Sam CS 05
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Sam CS 05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 638
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby Pennycuff View Post
40K service on my 2006 Cayenne Turbo. I told my dealer that the engine has a rough idle. 40K service calls for new plugs which were changed. After checking the coils, all 8 were replaced under warranty! See, be nice to your dealer and they will take care of you!
Took the car in for a check engine light, engine Thermostat replaced, reported rough idle, verified by dealer, all coils replaced under warranty...and yes I was very nice with them...they even threw in the low tone horn (defective)...4k left to going naked...any other suggestions?

joining this forum has already paid off many-many times

__________________
2001 996 TT
2005 Cayenne S (+PASM)
2005 Volvo XC90


gone:
2003 Boxster
2001 BMW 530i
1995 Saab 9000 CSE
Sam CS 05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 04:46 PM   #26
ltc
Super Moderator
 
ltc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: RL Moderator Bunker
Posts: 19,597
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam CS 05 View Post
Took the car in for a check engine light, engine Thermostat replaced, reported rough idle, verified by dealer, all coils replaced under warranty
Did they replace the spark plugs as well?
Normally, once the coil goes, the plug is fouled.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam CS 05 View Post
...and yes I was very nice with them...they even threw in the low tone horn (defective)...4k left to going naked...any other suggestions?
Perhaps transition slowly from clothed to naked Cayenne ownership.....say boxers to briefs to thong to Porsche pole dancer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam CS 05 View Post
joining this forum has already paid off many-many times
Wow, a compliment for the forum inmates.
__________________
...Lewis
ltc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2007, 05:26 PM   #27
Sam CS 05
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Sam CS 05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 638
Default

" Did they replace the spark plugs as well?
Normally, once the coil goes, the plug is fouled. "

just called them , no spark plugs replaced, they recommend it @ 60 K service (when I pay for it), I guess I should still be thankful...this Boston dealer, Herb Chambers, seem to know their stuff, so I trust them to have checked the plugs...


I am just wondering what Dr. W. would pay to shut down this forum...
__________________
2001 996 TT
2005 Cayenne S (+PASM)
2005 Volvo XC90


gone:
2003 Boxster
2001 BMW 530i
1995 Saab 9000 CSE
Sam CS 05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 12:04 AM   #28
Sam CS 05
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Sam CS 05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 638
Default

picked up the car tonight:

1. thermostat replaced
2. "funny" horn sound (per repair report) fixed
3.all ignition coils replaced
4.software updated

I don't know if it's my imagination or the reality, but the car drives a lot smoother and not hesitating like before...if it's reality, I hope it's permanent.

Sam
__________________
2001 996 TT
2005 Cayenne S (+PASM)
2005 Volvo XC90


gone:
2003 Boxster
2001 BMW 530i
1995 Saab 9000 CSE
Sam CS 05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 12:10 PM   #29
MadFox
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
MadFox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Alabama USA
Posts: 2,121
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam CS 05 View Post
picked up the car tonight:

1. thermostat replaced
2. "funny" horn sound (per repair report) fixed
3.all ignition coils replaced
4.software updated

I don't know if it's my imagination or the reality, but the car drives a lot smoother and not hesitating like before...if it's reality, I hope it's permanent.

Sam
Your dealer "may" be good.. but I would ask and/or read the service ticket and see if they even inspected the plugs.. if they did not.. take it back and insist that they inspect the plugs.. MOST of the dealers have replaced BOTH coils and plugs that I've read here.. your dealer will be paid so there is no reason not to do it.. if they inspected and said fine.. you're hosed for "freebies".

When the site is down, I'm sure the new owners could claim it "is" indeed Dr. W!
__________________
MadFox, Alabama, USA
Garage Queen that is out almost daily: '02 996 Targa
Daily that is nearly a Garage Queen: '06 Cayenne Tit.S
Former Daily: '04 (5/03) Cayenne S (Beta, now residing in Russia)
MadFox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2007, 11:06 AM   #30
Sam CS 05
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Sam CS 05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
Posts: 638
Default

I will call them, the service ticket mentions no plug inspection, I agree with you it would take them few more minutes to replace the plugs, prevention is the least costly practice.

on a happy note, the car still drives better....
__________________
2001 996 TT
2005 Cayenne S (+PASM)
2005 Volvo XC90


gone:
2003 Boxster
2001 BMW 530i
1995 Saab 9000 CSE
Sam CS 05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
01, 104, 1607, 1999, 2820, 602, 948, bar, coils, ignition, modules, porsche, porschecayenneforum, rennlist, tsb

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright © 1998 - 2007, Rennlist.com

Advertise on Rennlist - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy - Jobs