Cayman R or Wait For New Cayman S?
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Racer
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Cayman R or Wait For New Cayman S?
Hi all,
I've owned my 993 for 10 years and I am thinking about replacing it with a Cayman. I have many fond memories of the 993 but as I approach the ripe old age of 50 I would like a more modern vehicle. I've considered the new 991 but unfortunately it seems the consensus is that it is a GT, not a sports car. The Cayman would be a weekend car, as I have a daily driver. I am looking for an enthusiast car which is a real blast to drive, has modern reliability, but which is small and tossable. Utility beyond reliability is a secondary consideration.
I've been toying with replacing the 993 with a Cayman R or perhaps waiting for the new Cayman S (both with MT). I am a patient person and the cost differential isn't an issue.
Early Boxster S reviews are rave so I suspect the same will be true for the new Cayman. BUT, the Cayman R resonates with me. Not the most powerful car on the road, but providing that special connection between driver and car that puts a smile on a person's face.
So, I throw out the question for discussion. Will the new Cayman S, improved in several ways but with electromechanical steering, run circles around the Cayman R or do you suspect the Cayman R holds its own and then some?
Thanks.
Dave
I've owned my 993 for 10 years and I am thinking about replacing it with a Cayman. I have many fond memories of the 993 but as I approach the ripe old age of 50 I would like a more modern vehicle. I've considered the new 991 but unfortunately it seems the consensus is that it is a GT, not a sports car. The Cayman would be a weekend car, as I have a daily driver. I am looking for an enthusiast car which is a real blast to drive, has modern reliability, but which is small and tossable. Utility beyond reliability is a secondary consideration.
I've been toying with replacing the 993 with a Cayman R or perhaps waiting for the new Cayman S (both with MT). I am a patient person and the cost differential isn't an issue.
Early Boxster S reviews are rave so I suspect the same will be true for the new Cayman. BUT, the Cayman R resonates with me. Not the most powerful car on the road, but providing that special connection between driver and car that puts a smile on a person's face.
So, I throw out the question for discussion. Will the new Cayman S, improved in several ways but with electromechanical steering, run circles around the Cayman R or do you suspect the Cayman R holds its own and then some?
Thanks.
Dave
#2
A stripped Cayman R would be fun but most I've seen are loaded with options and weight. The Cayman R has a little more horsepower and a slightly lower and stiffer suspension then a Cayman S. If I were you, I would wait for the new Cayman S. I'm not sure about the electrical power steering but I know that the P/S failed on my 2007 S during track activity. The Gen II (2009 and later) has addressed this issue to some degree.
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Or a new 2013 Boxster S right now! A convertable is more of an enthusiast sport car anyway by tradition. Have you seen yet in person?? It's increadable looking, looks real exotic, alot like a Carrera GT. I just purshased a used 06 Cayman S however if I'd had the choice between old and new, I would've walked right in and slapped down a check for the new Boxster S. It's that stunning looking, really. Why wait for the Cayman S? Keep the 993 a get a 2013 Boxster S.
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you can buy cay r, spyder, 981...
do NOT, i repeat, do NOT sell the 993.
do NOT, i repeat, do NOT sell the 993.
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That's a beautiful 993. Love the color. It will go in a flash.
New CS will most certainly outperform the R. Unfortunately the R is not a true RS/GT3. If cost/wait is not a concern, the 2013 CS will be a better car.
New CS will most certainly outperform the R. Unfortunately the R is not a true RS/GT3. If cost/wait is not a concern, the 2013 CS will be a better car.
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Racer
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Thanks all for your input. As an aside, I saw a 2013 Boxster S "in the wild" today. Yellow with black top. Stunning looking car, especially when viewed with the "general population".
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The Cayman R is a very pure driving machine without all the fancy buttons and extras, which is exactly what I wanted. It reminds me of the way gen 1 Miatas were back in the early '90's- a light optimized handing package without a lot of extras. Just like the new Miatas of today, I feel like the Cayman is slowly getting bigger and more creature comfort oriented. The exterior of the new 981 is awesome. But I still dont like the center console that all the new Porsches have now. The 987 and 981 are about the same weight, but the R will have about 19 more bhp than the 981.
Its good to have tough choices, isnt it.
Its good to have tough choices, isnt it.
#12
Racer
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1995 C2
2-owner car, I have owned it 10 years.
84,000 miles
Stock except PSS-9 suspension
Winter stored, weekend toy
Light DE, maybe 10 days over the past 10 years
I don't believe it has LSD but I honestly don't know
Top end complete service 2 years ago, clutch at time (original) showed little wear
I have it listed for $37,000 on trader.ca and the Upper Canada Region UCR website.
2-owner car, I have owned it 10 years.
84,000 miles
Stock except PSS-9 suspension
Winter stored, weekend toy
Light DE, maybe 10 days over the past 10 years
I don't believe it has LSD but I honestly don't know
Top end complete service 2 years ago, clutch at time (original) showed little wear
I have it listed for $37,000 on trader.ca and the Upper Canada Region UCR website.
#13
Racer
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1995 C2
2-owner car, I have owned it 10 years.
84,000 miles
Stock except PSS-9 suspension
Winter stored, weekend toy, 8/10 exterior and interior, typical driver side bolster wear. Everything works.
Light DE, maybe 10 days over the past 10 years
I don't believe it has LSD but I honestly don't know (embarrassing)
Top end complete service 2 years ago, clutch at time (original) showed little wear
I have it listed for $37,000 on www.trader.ca and the Upper Canada Region UCR website.
Dave
2-owner car, I have owned it 10 years.
84,000 miles
Stock except PSS-9 suspension
Winter stored, weekend toy, 8/10 exterior and interior, typical driver side bolster wear. Everything works.
Light DE, maybe 10 days over the past 10 years
I don't believe it has LSD but I honestly don't know (embarrassing)
Top end complete service 2 years ago, clutch at time (original) showed little wear
I have it listed for $37,000 on www.trader.ca and the Upper Canada Region UCR website.
Dave
#14
I purchased a 2012 Cayman R, built to my specs -- very few options. It is a fantastic car and I'd buy it again, only I'd skip the Porsche Sports Exhaust and go aftermarket.
Cheers,
DJM
Cheers,
DJM
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I'd personally go with the Cayman R. It is more of a limited production model and therefore you won't see many on the road. Plus, all the reviews I've read about the Cayman R is that it is amazing. Good luck with your car search!
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2007 Porsche Cayman, manual, Tubi exhaust
2006 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S, twin turbo, 520hp/530 lb-ft torque
2007 Mercedes GL 450, includes every option possible
2008 Jeep Wrangler X