Considering a 997.1 Cup as a DE car.
08-14-2020, 05:17 PM
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08-14-2020, 08:21 PM
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Another who has stepped into a 996 cup from a 996 GT3 road car. I don’t get much time to drive it as I’m distracted by other vehicles and a young family but every time I do I can’t wipe the smile off my face for days after. Can be easily self supported at a track day but worth having a reliable shop to look over the car before events. You may opt to do this yourself but for me I see it as an old race car so I feel more comfortable if another set of eyes has been on it before I go out. As others have said it’s a very friendly race car sharing lots with the street car. Still a weapon so you will find yourself and passing a lot of cars.
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FastCarSlo (08-15-2020)
09-10-2020, 09:20 PM
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I stumbled on this thread a month late. I DE a 997.1 Cup that I bought from Bill Rudtner (who supports me at the track) Actually my son and I share the car (also have a Spec Boxster which I am going to start racing next season). I did not do the paddle conversion. I fully understand the costs involved.
Like someone else said, there is NOTHING like driving a cup car on track, even in a DE with point bys. The smile on my face usually lasts a few days after I get back from an event and I'm always jonesing to get back there ASAP.
My son driving the car at Lime Rock:
Some front straight drive bys at LRP (with the quiet exhaust system)
Highly recommended.
Like someone else said, there is NOTHING like driving a cup car on track, even in a DE with point bys. The smile on my face usually lasts a few days after I get back from an event and I'm always jonesing to get back there ASAP.
My son driving the car at Lime Rock:
Some front straight drive bys at LRP (with the quiet exhaust system)
Highly recommended.
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09-11-2020, 12:35 PM
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I stumbled on this thread a month late. I DE a 997.1 Cup that I bought from Bill Rudtner (who supports me at the track) Actually my son and I share the car (also have a Spec Boxster which I am going to start racing next season). I did not do the paddle conversion. I fully understand the costs involved.
Like someone else said, there is NOTHING like driving a cup car on track, even in a DE with point bys. The smile on my face usually lasts a few days after I get back from an event and I'm always jonesing to get back there ASAP.
Like someone else said, there is NOTHING like driving a cup car on track, even in a DE with point bys. The smile on my face usually lasts a few days after I get back from an event and I'm always jonesing to get back there ASAP.
My son normally knocks a few seconds off my times - I haven’t decided if that’s talent, *****, that he doesn’t have to pay, or all 3.
. It’s a ton of fun to watch
09-11-2020, 01:55 PM
#35
Drifting
Funny, I share mine with my son as well, and our 2nd car is a spec 944. Momentum vs 911 is a fun contrast! I have to ask.. in your case who is faster?
My son normally knocks a few seconds off my times - I haven’t decided if that’s talent, *****, that he doesn’t have to pay, or all 3.. It’s a ton of fun to watch
My son normally knocks a few seconds off my times - I haven’t decided if that’s talent, *****, that he doesn’t have to pay, or all 3.
. It’s a ton of fun to watch
09-12-2020, 01:07 AM
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We’re in Socal and a few years away from having time for treks to east coast but we’ll make it at some point, would be fun to explore a whole different set of tracks.
09-13-2020, 04:14 PM
#37
I also went from a boxster race car to a 997.1 cup. I did about 6 practice track days then straight into race. Like many, I was super intimidated. But, it was a rush unlike anything else. I would say the 997.1 is definitely more raw and will beat you up. I’m 49, in average shape, and I stepped out of the car like I was just in a street fight..... with a big ear to ear grin. My advice, get a professional coach with you for a few track weekends to help get you confidence. I even hired one to spend the entire day with the car to sort out bugs in the brakes and suspension. Best money I’ve ever spent on a car. Got back into it and it was night and day. The reason why I think this was such a valuable expense was I really had no idea what to expect. I drove the first 2 weekends with spring bind up in the rear and didn’t know it. If you’ve never driven these cars you may not know what feedback is normal for a cup or not normal. So, I’m a big fan of the 997.1. I think it’s the best deal out there today for a DE or race car. I will echo others that mention maintenance costs. And, parts are getting hard to find as well.
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FastCarSlo (10-04-2020)
10-04-2020, 02:31 PM
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@cadaver I agree 100% with getting an experienced coach engaged right off the bat. We didn’t do that until recently and while we had tons of fun along the way we definitely didn’t have the car properly sorted, and as you said, didn’t even realize it because we didn’t have the right reference point.
10-09-2020, 10:44 PM
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Thanks everyone for all the excellent info. Decided against the Cup and went with a GTB1 prepped Cayman. Little bit more upfront than some of the 997.1s i was looking at, but maintenance and running costs seem a bit more manageable, especially in DE trim. Next step for next season will be some coaching. Any recommendations in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic (US)?
10-13-2020, 04:19 AM
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We use a garmin heart rate band connected via bluetooth to the Vbox HD2 in the car. Instructions here: https://racelogic.support/02VBOX_Mot...t_Rate_Monitor
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FastCarSlo (10-15-2020)
11-09-2020, 09:52 AM
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My quick and dirty.
Run cost is going to be substantially higher, it "can" be run without a shop but that can lead to more worries.
Parts are cheaper than street cars though. No IMS issues on racecars.
Paddles and ABS are frankly required. You will **** up the gearbox if you dont know how to use it, gentle shifts=repair bill.
ABS will pay for itself extremely quickly. Whether its from flatspots galore or where a lockup would have put you in a wall, get abs.
Here's my main pet peeve, it may apply here but it might not at all. When getting a racecar, scraping by just isnt worth it.
Willing to buy sets of tires when they're roasted after a weekend? Far too many racecars get driven on old af and worn down tires because guys are trying to get every single dollar out of them, putting wasted hours onto the car with 50% of the value extracted out of those laps.
Wiling to risk some damage? No point in buying a car and driving it in fear of damage. A SB is one thing, but a Cup is something new.
IMO too many people reach for cups when they're better suited for the budget of Caymans or something under a cup.
Just know what you're getting in for, if it's all good, then send it as nothing beats a cup car! Just dont want people getting in over their heads.
Run cost is going to be substantially higher, it "can" be run without a shop but that can lead to more worries.
Parts are cheaper than street cars though. No IMS issues on racecars.
Paddles and ABS are frankly required. You will **** up the gearbox if you dont know how to use it, gentle shifts=repair bill.
ABS will pay for itself extremely quickly. Whether its from flatspots galore or where a lockup would have put you in a wall, get abs.
Here's my main pet peeve, it may apply here but it might not at all. When getting a racecar, scraping by just isnt worth it.
Willing to buy sets of tires when they're roasted after a weekend? Far too many racecars get driven on old af and worn down tires because guys are trying to get every single dollar out of them, putting wasted hours onto the car with 50% of the value extracted out of those laps.
Wiling to risk some damage? No point in buying a car and driving it in fear of damage. A SB is one thing, but a Cup is something new.
IMO too many people reach for cups when they're better suited for the budget of Caymans or something under a cup.
Just know what you're getting in for, if it's all good, then send it as nothing beats a cup car! Just dont want people getting in over their heads.
11-09-2020, 10:28 AM
#42
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The Megaline Paddle set up is the bomb. It is what Porsche went with for the 991's ultimately. All have specific set up items you have to know about and monitor. The most important thing is what system does your shop do the best with - get that one. But - my experience with all three indirectly and Megaline directly is that Megaline is solid and needs less upkeep.