992 Cup Experience
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Those of you in this thread self supporting your 991 and 992 cup cars, are you following a user manual from Porsche when it comes to life of parts and maintenance procedures? If so I’m curious to understand what kind of information Porsche provides with a modern 992 cup car pertaining to actually running the car. I wish something detailed existed for my old 996 besides the very, very basic user manual and list of torque settings.
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I picked up a 992 Cup that has been previously raced in the PCCD. Once receiving it, I went ahead and ordered the ABS system. This also required replacing the rear master cylinder as part of the install. I also enabled the traction control functionality.
Took the car this past weekend to Sebring. I've been driving the 991.2 Cup for the past two years, so I had a good baseline for comparison.
The 992 Cup is more compliant, less twitchy, more refined, and slightly more insulating than the 991.2. It has a LOT more front grip, of which I haven't even come close to exploring the limits. The 991.2 Cup is more visceral and more engaging. The 992 is easier to make go fast. The 991.2 takes more work.
I'm keeping both cars (991.2 and 992) and will alternate between events.
Note that I am not a racer. I just do track days. I do all the work myself (which is half the fun) and very far below what the car can do and below my own perceived limits.
Here's a video from Sebring and I know all the places I could go faster, brake later, get on throttle sooner, etc. The car is fun to drive. I was in the 2:09-2:10 range by end of my first weekend with the car. I'm no pro and will never be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkI6nHmYHQ
Took the car this past weekend to Sebring. I've been driving the 991.2 Cup for the past two years, so I had a good baseline for comparison.
The 992 Cup is more compliant, less twitchy, more refined, and slightly more insulating than the 991.2. It has a LOT more front grip, of which I haven't even come close to exploring the limits. The 991.2 Cup is more visceral and more engaging. The 992 is easier to make go fast. The 991.2 takes more work.
I'm keeping both cars (991.2 and 992) and will alternate between events.
Note that I am not a racer. I just do track days. I do all the work myself (which is half the fun) and very far below what the car can do and below my own perceived limits.
Here's a video from Sebring and I know all the places I could go faster, brake later, get on throttle sooner, etc. The car is fun to drive. I was in the 2:09-2:10 range by end of my first weekend with the car. I'm no pro and will never be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkI6nHmYHQ
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I just bought one, getting in by end of Feb 2024... Can't wait.
Have no idea what I'm getting into... But I love to drive on the track, and this car is a bucket list item.
So, I'll be doing it all myself, from a couple of people I've talked to its all pretty simple and similar until you get to the Engine/Tranny rebuilds.
Have no idea what I'm getting into... But I love to drive on the track, and this car is a bucket list item.
So, I'll be doing it all myself, from a couple of people I've talked to its all pretty simple and similar until you get to the Engine/Tranny rebuilds.
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Those of you in this thread self supporting your 991 and 992 cup cars, are you following a user manual from Porsche when it comes to life of parts and maintenance procedures? If so I’m curious to understand what kind of information Porsche provides with a modern 992 cup car pertaining to actually running the car. I wish something detailed existed for my old 996 besides the very, very basic user manual and list of torque settings.
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I just bought one, getting in by end of Feb 2024... Can't wait.
Have no idea what I'm getting into... But I love to drive on the track, and this car is a bucket list item.
So, I'll be doing it all myself, from a couple of people I've talked to its all pretty simple and similar until you get to the Engine/Tranny rebuilds.
Have no idea what I'm getting into... But I love to drive on the track, and this car is a bucket list item.
So, I'll be doing it all myself, from a couple of people I've talked to its all pretty simple and similar until you get to the Engine/Tranny rebuilds.
Why wouldn’t it be a bucket list item?
Car has low hours, but I’m sure it’ll need something eventually. I have a great support guy locally, he knows these cars really well, Heck, he’s been maintaining the 458 Challenge for the past year.
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Thank you both!
Thanks Dan. Was definitely more cautious on my first session. Got more and more comfortable as sessions went on. With regards to lap times, well, pros are doing 2:01 to 2:03 at Sebring. I'm good for 2:10-2:11. The gap is talent. So the car is far more capable than I. But I don't care. I'm having fun.
Thanks Dan. Was definitely more cautious on my first session. Got more and more comfortable as sessions went on. With regards to lap times, well, pros are doing 2:01 to 2:03 at Sebring. I'm good for 2:10-2:11. The gap is talent. So the car is far more capable than I. But I don't care. I'm having fun.
congratulations! Seems to be a trend going now. I take delivery of a MY2022 tomorrow at the Driving Club Road Atlanta. Coming out of an Radical SR10. It should be epic and MUCH safer.
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Saw quite a few at Sebring last week, appears more folks are simply doing HPDE with them.
Why not just have fun? I suspect we’ll be seeing more as time goes on.
Agree on safety factor,
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i drove/raced my 992 cup for the first time this past weekend at the Sebring club race. Holy smokes it is awesome! Very easy to drive out of the box, but so much more for me to learn. I was doing 2:07s on the rules mandate Pirellis, but there are many seconds still left to shave. I had some good battles with Marco and Roberto in their 992s too. C8 & A4 are gonna be fun!
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i drove/raced my 992 cup for the first time this past weekend at the Sebring club race. Holy smokes it is awesome! Very easy to drive out of the box, but so much more for me to learn. I was doing 2:07s on the rules mandate Pirellis, but there are many seconds still left to shave. I had some good battles with Marco and Roberto in their 992s too. C8 & A4 are gonna be fun!
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My prior car was a 981 Clubsport MR. The 992 cup, while significantly faster, wasn’t as big a jump as I expected. It’s quite predictable and fairly easy to drive honestly. The level of grip is insane, as is the acceleration.
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Everyone we have put into a 992 cup from either a 991 Cup or even a 991/992 GT3/RS Street car is BLOWN AWAY at the capabilities of the 992 Cup.
We manage 15 of them here at GMG / Thermal Club and several of the members are going right for the 992 Cup as their track day car vs a street car.
Now the Thermal GT Races have big fields with 8-10 992 Cups, 3-5 Super Trofeo Lambos and 6-8 488 Challege cars all in the Cup Challenge class, which makes for an exciting race.
FWIW, a 992 Cup won the class the last race in Jan. :-)
No question, if you can transport your own car or have a local shop run it for you and you plan to do 6+ track events a year, a 992 Cup is an excellent choice!
We manage 15 of them here at GMG / Thermal Club and several of the members are going right for the 992 Cup as their track day car vs a street car.
Now the Thermal GT Races have big fields with 8-10 992 Cups, 3-5 Super Trofeo Lambos and 6-8 488 Challege cars all in the Cup Challenge class, which makes for an exciting race.
FWIW, a 992 Cup won the class the last race in Jan. :-)
No question, if you can transport your own car or have a local shop run it for you and you plan to do 6+ track events a year, a 992 Cup is an excellent choice!
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